[colecampbell666]

Seems like some people have problems and some have problems with XP. I've had XP since about a week after it came out, it was a big step up from 95. I think that most of the problems with Vista are the PCs that they sell it on, 75% of which have no chance of running on it.

[karajorma]

Isn't it therefore ridiculous that the latest OS won't run properly on that 75% of new PCs though?

[colecampbell666]

Really. You go into BestBuy and look at the 500$ PCs claimed to run Vista. Right...

[Polpolion]

$500 for a PC? It's almost like some people's lives don't revolve completely around their computer and gaming...



Anyway, mine does. As demonstrated by the fact that I'm devoting an entire external hard drive to Freespace. I figure I'll get the ISOs put on there, install FS to the drive, copy over the registry files (so I don't have to re-install if I switch computers), and every single mod/add on I can find, whether I'll play it or not. I'll have all the official SCP releases 3.6.9 on out, all of the MVPs 3.6.8 and up; practically the entire Freespace universe. So if there's like a nuclear war or something, I can take a laptop and this into a bunker and play FreeSpace while everyone is dying. Then, when the war ends and there's mutants and aliens everything, I'll have all of FreeSpace to show them. Muhahahaha!! Freespace will live forever!!!

...Okay I got a bit carried away there at the end.

[Jeff Vader]

So if there's like a nuclear war or something, I can take a laptop and this into a bunker and play FreeSpace while everyone is dying.

A bunker, you say? In the event of a nuclear war, we're there, dude. Like it or lump it.

[Nx]

Really. You go into BestBuy and look at the 500$ PCs claimed to run Vista. Right...

Well, technically, it will boot up. And it will run. If you call looking at the desktop and waiting five minutes for your web browser to start "running". Same as if you put xp on a p3 with 128mb. I've seen that and it's not pretty.

The problem with Vista isn't that it doesn't run properly on weak computers. It's not meant to (okay, so the official system requirements are too low, but they always are). You (and, more importantly, big companies) wouldn't have to buy a new computer if it did. Everyone says put a decent computer under it and it'll fly. Well, it wont. If someone starts copying files from my computer over the network at the blazing speed of 3mb/s, just moving windows around (with all their blurry aero goodness) stutters. With 4 gigs of ram.

[colecampbell666]

$500 for a PC? It's almost like some people's lives don't revolve completely around their computer and gaming...



Anyway, mine does. As demonstrated by the fact that I'm devoting an entire external hard drive to Freespace. I figure I'll get the ISOs put on there, install FS to the drive, copy over the registry files (so I don't have to re-install if I switch computers), and every single mod/add on I can find, whether I'll play it or not. I'll have all the official SCP releases 3.6.9 on out, all of the MVPs 3.6.8 and up; practically the entire Freespace universe. So if there's like a nuclear war or something, I can take a laptop and this into a bunker and play FreeSpace while everyone is dying. Then, when the war ends and there's mutants and aliens everything, I'll have all of FreeSpace to show them. Muhahahaha!! Freespace will live forever!!!

...Okay I got a bit carried away there at the end.

You do know that FSO doesn't need registry files? Or are you talking about retail? I might just use my HDD for that.

[wolfen]

Really. You go into BestBuy and look at the 500$ PCs claimed to run Vista. Right...

Well, technically, it will boot up. And it will run. If you call looking at the desktop and waiting five minutes for your web browser to start "running". Same as if you put xp on a p3 with 128mb. I've seen that and it's not pretty.

The problem with Vista isn't that it doesn't run properly on weak computers. It's not meant to (okay, so the official system requirements are too low, but they always are). You (and, more importantly, big companies) wouldn't have to buy a new computer if it did. Everyone says put a decent computer under it and it'll fly. Well, it wont. If someone starts copying files from my computer over the network at the blazing speed of 3mb/s, just moving windows around (with all their blurry aero goodness) stutters. With 4 gigs of ram.

Hey I had xp on a p3 with 64 meg or ram, trust me xp ran just fine only took 30 minutes to come on and half an hour to launch freespace:)

[Polpolion]

You do know that FSO doesn't need registry files? Or are you talking about retail? I might just use my HDD for that.

Yeah, it's for retail, but of course I haven't played retail in forever. I figure it's good to have 'em just incase a situation ever arises that I'd need em and don't want to install FS again. It's better to be prepared.

Actually I doubt that you need them to play retail FS, but IMHO it's better for the OS to know it's there. For some crazy reason.

So if there's like a nuclear war or something, I can take a laptop and this into a bunker and play FreeSpace while everyone is dying.

A bunker, you say? In the event of a nuclear war, we're there, dude. Like it or lump it.

Fine by me. The more the merrier; and if you guys bring your own laptops we'll be able to get multi-player going too! Dang, Dooms Day just keeps getting better and better...

[wolfen]

$500 for a PC? It's almost like some people's lives don't revolve completely around their computer and gaming...



Anyway, mine does. As demonstrated by the fact that I'm devoting an entire external hard drive to Freespace. I figure I'll get the ISOs put on there, install FS to the drive, copy over the registry files (so I don't have to re-install if I switch computers), and every single mod/add on I can find, whether I'll play it or not. I'll have all the official SCP releases 3.6.9 on out, all of the MVPs 3.6.8 and up; practically the entire Freespace universe. So if there's like a nuclear war or something, I can take a laptop and this into a bunker and play FreeSpace while everyone is dying. Then, when the war ends and there's mutants and aliens everything, I'll have all of FreeSpace to show them. Muhahahaha!! Freespace will live forever!!!

...Okay I got a bit carried away there at the end.

Dude I hate to say this but in the event of a nuclear war I don't think you will be playing FreeSpace

[Nx]

Really. You go into BestBuy and look at the 500$ PCs claimed to run Vista. Right...

Well, technically, it will boot up. And it will run. If you call looking at the desktop and waiting five minutes for your web browser to start "running". Same as if you put xp on a p3 with 128mb. I've seen that and it's not pretty.

The problem with Vista isn't that it doesn't run properly on weak computers. It's not meant to (okay, so the official system requirements are too low, but they always are). You (and, more importantly, big companies) wouldn't have to buy a new computer if it did. Everyone says put a decent computer under it and it'll fly. Well, it wont. If someone starts copying files from my computer over the network at the blazing speed of 3mb/s, just moving windows around (with all their blurry aero goodness) stutters. With 4 gigs of ram.

Hey I had xp on a p3 with 64 meg or ram, trust me xp ran just fine only took 30 minutes to come on and half an hour to launch freespace:)

And I thought my AthlonXP 1700+ with 256mb was slow
BTW, 30 min = half an hour 

[Polpolion]

$500 for a PC? It's almost like some people's lives don't revolve completely around their computer and gaming...



Anyway, mine does. As demonstrated by the fact that I'm devoting an entire external hard drive to Freespace. I figure I'll get the ISOs put on there, install FS to the drive, copy over the registry files (so I don't have to re-install if I switch computers), and every single mod/add on I can find, whether I'll play it or not. I'll have all the official SCP releases 3.6.9 on out, all of the MVPs 3.6.8 and up; practically the entire Freespace universe. So if there's like a nuclear war or something, I can take a laptop and this into a bunker and play FreeSpace while everyone is dying. Then, when the war ends and there's mutants and aliens everything, I'll have all of FreeSpace to show them. Muhahahaha!! Freespace will live forever!!!

...Okay I got a bit carried away there at the end.

Dude I hate to say this but in the event of a nuclear war I don't think you will be playing FreeSpace

Nonsense!! I will happily play Freespace, oblivious to all else, until the crazy cow-mutant-zombies break into our bunker and eat us!!

[Hellbender]

I can sympathize with out of date university software licences, although with the price of tuition you'd think they would have the decency to upgrade.

I'm curious then as to what the system specs are of the machines that run Vista no problem and the ones folks are grinny about. Here's mine, I'm including the whole thing just for comparison's sake. I figure it ought to work out to a reasonable midrange for Vista capable gaming systems:

Vista Home Premium
MSI 865PE Platinum MoBo,
2.8ghz P-IV OC'ED @ 3.2ghz, (11 cooling fans, various placements incl chipsets)
2 gig ddr ram,
512meg Radeon X1650 Pro AGP,
Creative Audigy 2ZS Platinum sound,
300gig HDD space and 2 DVD burners,
Enermax 660 watt power supply,
Itron Scorpius KB, Logitech MX518 Mouse, Saitek X45 Flight Controller
All built in an ugly case I got for cheap because some shipper dropped it off the truck.

The majority of the parts are 2 yrs old or older, except the RAM and video card which were added in November. Previously the system ran 1 gig RAM and a 128 meg Radeon 9800 Pro, but no issues. Main difference has been improved framerates in games like FEAR and Halflife 2 on full settings.

[colecampbell666]

I really doubt that you need 11 fans, 4 max with good placement should do you, not including chipset/GPU/CPU fans.

[Hellbender]

I really doubt that you need 11 fans, 4 max with good placement should do you, not including chipset/GPU/CPU fans.

Trust me, she needs them. We have 3 dogs and 3 cats. I spend at least two days a month clearing the wookies out of the exhaust ports. The house is too small for a dedicated computer room, so they are exposed to the household traffic constantly. I'd rather over do it than take a chance on things clogging up solid when I'm not around.

[Nx]

I really doubt that you need 11 fans, 4 max with good placement should do you, not including chipset/GPU/CPU fans.

You can never have enough fans. Especially with a P4

[colecampbell666]

My P4 is exposed to a Golden Retriever and two Siamese cats, one of which pulls out his hair. My PC doesn't get hairy.

Is it bad that my heatsink is missing 3 blades?

[wolfen]

$500 for a PC? It's almost like some people's lives don't revolve completely around their computer and gaming...



Anyway, mine does. As demonstrated by the fact that I'm devoting an entire external hard drive to Freespace. I figure I'll get the ISOs put on there, install FS to the drive, copy over the registry files (so I don't have to re-install if I switch computers), and every single mod/add on I can find, whether I'll play it or not. I'll have all the official SCP releases 3.6.9 on out, all of the MVPs 3.6.8 and up; practically the entire Freespace universe. So if there's like a nuclear war or something, I can take a laptop and this into a bunker and play FreeSpace while everyone is dying. Then, when the war ends and there's mutants and aliens everything, I'll have all of FreeSpace to show them. Muhahahaha!! Freespace will live forever!!!

...Okay I got a bit carried away there at the end.

Dude I hate to say this but in the event of a nuclear war I don't think you will be playing FreeSpace

Nonsense!! I will happily play Freespace, oblivious to all else, until the crazy cow-mutant-zombies break into our bunker and eat us!!

You my friend are not right LOL I liek that asset in a person, people liek you are great in combat.

[Polpolion]

I would gladly DIE for the nation I'm fighting for!! Provided the combat takes place within the confines of the Freespace 2 open game engine...

[colecampbell666]

There are 3 little words below your name, look at them...