[Colonol Dekker]

Replace name with <blaine russell, axem, etc> and you'd be right. . . Sort of. The campaign would be great but it wouldn't be It would be like a stepbrother to 1 and 2.

[Snail]

We would all like a FS3 Made In , that would be the true sequel, but we're generalizing here.[/color][/i]

That's not a fact either. I don't want a FS3 in any way shape or form.

Though a FS3 made by doesn't seem possible, a FS3 made by <insert name> is.[/color][/i]

Which is a truly horrible thought.

[karajorma]

...God, the people who get pissed at the mention of FS3 are more annoying than the people who actually mention FS3.

Indeed. Especially since most of them weren't actually around when FS3 threads were ten a penny and actually were annoying. Now more often than not it seems to be done because people expect an overreaction to mention of FS3 and want to be just like the veterans. Unfortunately they haven't noticed that the veterans don't mind mention of FS3 any more because it's become reasonably uncommon finally.

[Mobius]

Well it's time for the rookies to get their experience in FS3 discussions, the veterans are slowly venishing.

Snail, that's much more probable than the option we would all prefer.

[Snail]

Snail, that's much more probable than the option we would all prefer.

Which is, as I said, a truly horrible thought.

Indeed. Especially since most of them weren't actually around when FS3 threads were ten a penny and actually were annoying. Now more often than not it seems to be done because people expect an overreaction to mention of FS3 and want to be just like the veterans. Unfortunately they haven't noticed that the veterans don't mind mention of FS3 any more because it's become reasonably uncommon finally.

I haven't seen an FS3 thread for quite a while.

[Colonol Dekker]

Snail time isn't that long here really. No offense.
Do a topic title search. I would imagine a few returns.

[Snail]

Snail time isn't that long here really. No offense.
Do a topic title search. I would imagine a few returns.

Well in my 2 years on HLP I have seen a few FS3 threads, but not a lot of them.

[Kie99]

Freespace 3 is a pipe dream, go into a local games store and tell me how many space combat sims you can see.  You can say it might happen in the future if you like but the likelihood of someone making a sequel to any game decreases the greater the time since the original's release.

[Colonol Dekker]

It's a static genre. Starlancer was the last major scs marketing campaign after prophecy. Freelancer just kind of appeared on the shelves round my manor.

[Droid803]

How did Bosch and the Shivans degenerate into FS3 talk.
Oh, how I lament the poor fate of this thread.

[Colonol Dekker]

Back on topic sorry
I forget, in the abduction mission, do the Iceni crew specify whether the ill fated admiral was taken alive, or dead?

[Snail]

Alive, since they pursue him. I doubt they would pursue a corpse.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Alive, since they pursue him. I doubt they would pursue a corpse.

    Bosch had an effect on the Shivan's actions.
    Or else the first 66% of the FS2 Campaign is completely meaningless. You don't have a civil war, and a secret project, and an ill-fated leader's monologues and in the end nothing happens whatsoever. Part of what the Shivans did in the end of FS2 is influenced by what Bosch did, now . . . did Bosch get his great alliance with the Shivans? I doubt it. No one ever gets exactly what they want, but the Shivans and their motives are likely more complicated as a result of what he did. It's possible that the Shivans went to Earth . . . but, it depends on how FS3 would've been structure. If the game starts with them going to Earth, having Shivans there would've made for probably a boring game. However if there was some dissent and buildup prior to the portal opening, it might've been more interesting. There likely would've been a civil war of some sort, there's the GTVI, NTF, HoL, there's always rebels for the sake of more interesting gameplay and less black and white. But who knows. It's likely the Shivans would've been prominent in FS3 again, but how they would've been introduced and what role they'd play is speculative.

[Akalabeth Angel]

Most of the community didn't want an FS3, when it seemed that a DS was going to develop it. And now? I'm just concerned that FreeSpace becomes so popular that Interplay notices the HLP and thinks "Hey, they can't distribute FS2 freely!" and throw lawsuits at the community, effectively making FS2 a rare item among players. And even if Interplay is back in business, there is currently no proof that they're actually even remotely interested in continuing the space sim genre, not to mention by having someone make a sequel to a series that (sadly) was a flop.

   The code is open source, as long as the releases contain no Volition content there's no breach of copyright. If BSG and WC:Saga etcetera are 100% original then Interplay can't do anything anyway.

   IP already capitalized on the freespace2 boom when they rereleased it in a money grab a few years back.

[Jeff Vader]

   The code is open source, as long as the releases contain no Volition content there's no breach of copyright. If BSG and WC:Saga etcetera are 100% original then Interplay can't do anything anyway.

   IP already capitalized on the freespace2 boom when they rereleased it in a money grab a few years back.

Indeed. The engine is open source. The SCP can continue to develop and release FSO builds and there's nothing wrong with TCs. But, the FS2 contents are. So, if Interplay decides so, they can demand that we discontinue sharing the actual FS2 to random people and that would at least partially nullify things such as Turey's Installer. Not entirely, but partially.

[RedBaron]

err.... how can they went anywhere??? the shivans are "prisonered" in the capella system.

the only possibility i see is that the destroying of the capella sun created a subspace portal to the SHIVAN home world like said in the last video of FS2 IF you can jump before getting destroyed by the supernova.

They can go somewhere since there is at least the node back to Gamma Draconis. At least. I'll check some node maps to see if there are other systems as well.

Edit: Yup, there's always the Gamma Draconis node. I don't remember anyone doing anything to it.

I´m not sure how long the "knossos portal" at gamma draconis will be working. It was destroyed by 3GTVA MESON bombs.

[Jeff Vader]

They can go somewhere since there is at least the node back to Gamma Draconis. At least. I'll check some node maps to see if there are other systems as well.

Edit: Yup, there's always the Gamma Draconis node. I don't remember anyone doing anything to it.

I´m not sure how long the "knossos portal" at gamma draconis will be working. It was destroyed by 3GTVA MESON bombs.

The Knossos portal is irrelevant. As demonstrated by the first Sathanas, the node was quite stable and didn't even require the portal to remain open. Yes, we can only speculate just how long will that node remain operational, but as it was stated in the game, it may be quite some time. Add that to the fact that the Shivans have a bad habit of using nodes that are too unstable for Terran and Vasudan vessels and there you have it. A nice, cozy route back to the nebula.

[Kie99]

Most of the community didn't want an FS3, when it seemed that a DS was going to develop it. And now? I'm just concerned that FreeSpace becomes so popular that Interplay notices the HLP and thinks "Hey, they can't distribute FS2 freely!" and throw lawsuits at the community, effectively making FS2 a rare item among players. And even if Interplay is back in business, there is currently no proof that they're actually even remotely interested in continuing the space sim genre, not to mention by having someone make a sequel to a series that (sadly) was a flop.

Be realistic, Interplay will never be able to stop the distribution of FS2 the same way you can find cracked versions of games released today on Torrent networks within hours of their release.

[Jeff Vader]

I know. Nothing can be stopped in the InterWebs. It's just that if Interplay wants to be a *****, they can demand that, for example, Turey's Installer doesn't provide anyone with FS2 and they might try to track sites that host FS2. I know. After that we could be like Psst. Get ef es too from the torrenzrorz. Oh and ef es wan too.

[Droid803]

I wonder...what if the Capella Supernova and the collapsing of the Epsilon Pegasi and Vega nodes destabilized the Gamma Draconis node, trapping the Shivans in Capella, or if the Gamma Drac - Nebula Knossos node collapsed... As if...the Capella supernova was a mistake...as in, never meant to happen, and the collapsed nodes leave the Shivans unable to run from...whatever problem hinted at.

that would be...interesting (using that for my campaign NO STEALING)

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Since FS2 source code is free release...Only the art is kinda...'protected', then won't everyone just download the source code/engine, plug in the MediaVPs, and be happy with having even higher-quality art than the original?