[Spoon]

So much info in this thread
Spoon shall hereby reward many ttuta's cookies for his good work

Though for some reason, I feel a bit of the mystery is lost with these answers
Ah well, pack your bags everyone. It's time to go to shivan town!

A signal long dormant that when used would have sparked their curiosity, hence boarding and capturing rather than just destroying Bosch and his ship outright.

Alien, you have spoken the Words.  You have spoken them rightly.

*awards nuclear one internet*
Didn't even needed to click the link 

[Droid803]

ttuta +1

[General Battuta]

There's nothing binding about any of this, mind. You can feel free to do whatever the heck you like.

[Luis Dias]

I don't think you need to fill up this thread with elaborate descriptions of the same things everybody else has imagined.

Who told you I was doing this because I needed to?

[Luis Dias]

Anyways, thanks for the excellent interview, quite entertaining. Now to sleep and dreaming about things that "everybody else has imagined".

[Droid803]

Double post!
Burn the witch!


But yes, much thanks.

[Rodo]

Nice material

[NGTM-1R]

Ahhh you collapse stars and you get black holes. Cappella has enough mass to get you a nice black hole

No it doesn't.  It doesn't even apparently have enough mass to supernova. That's part of the point.

[General Battuta]

Updating the first post with a new tidbit.

[DarthWang]

They would probably have Gargants at Shivantown

[Asteroth]

Ahhh you collapse stars and you get black holes. Cappella has enough mass to get you a nice black hole

No it doesn't.  It doesn't even apparently have enough mass to supernova. That's part of the point.

Mass is irrelevant in the formation of a black hole, only density is required. It may not have enough mass to turn into a black hole by normal means of it merely drawing to the end of it's life, but the Sathanas juggernauts may have had the technology to force it into a black hole, even if it would not have done so by the end of its life.

[NGTM-1R]

Mass is irrelevant in the formation of a black hole, only density is required. It may not have enough mass to turn into a black hole by normal means of it merely drawing to the end of it's life, but the Sathanas juggernauts may have had the technology to force it into a black hole, even if it would not have done so by the end of its life.

As I said, that's the point. It's not merely that Sathanas are big and scary towards other ships; en masse they can beat physics up with a metal bat.

[Asteroth]

As I said, that's the point. It's not merely that Sathanas are big and scary towards other ships; en masse they can beat physics up with a metal bat.

Ah, I see. I misinterpreted your post.

[Scourge of Ages]

Wow, that is really really cool to hear those things after all this time. As you said, Battuta, the answers clarified some things but at the same time didn't really negatively impact any fan-made stuff.

[T-LoW]

Awesome awesome awesome!!

I love you, Bats - and Goob of course

[Mongoose]

Wow, this is really really cool stuff. A lot of the story-related answers are things that we've surmised/anticipated over the years, but there are a few surprising nuggets in there too.  The fact that Jason saw the Shivans as something like, as Battuta put it, von Neumann machines gone wrong is pretty damn awesome.  The part about any potential sequel involving a trip to Shivantown (hee, sounds like something out of JAD) makes a lot of sense too...if the GTVA ever had any hope of survival over the long run, they'd eventually have to see just how deep the rabbit-hole goes.  It's interesting to learn that had vague plans of getting the Ancients involved somehow, too.

The one answer that does give me a bit of pause is about the Lucifer fleet as a "scouting party" meant to wipe out any intelligent life it encountered.  (Heh, maybe that FS2 box blurb was accurate after all.)  I'm not sure how well that really meshes with what happens in both games.  We know (or at least can safely surmise) that the Lucifer fleet was what wiped the Ancients out thousands of years ago, and that they didn't do much of anything to Terrans or Vasudans until the start of FS1.  We also know that the Shivan forces beyond the Knossos were presumably cut off from our space until the Trinity reactivated the Knossos and entered the nebula.  Knowing those things, I'm not sure how the Lucifer can be seen as paving the way for the Sathanas fleet later on, given that a line of contact between the two didn't exist.  (And if the Lucifer was really meant specifically to wipe out sentient species, why would they wait for so long after Terrans and Vasudans achieved space colonization?)  I've always liked to view the Lucifer fleet as having been cut off from the rest of Shivan space via the Knossos shutting down, then hanging around in some sort of dormant state until GTI meddling woke it up; its actions would have had to be completely separate from those of the Shivan forces in FS2.  I guess you could reconcile the two views by surmising that the Lucifer's original purpose was that of a forward cleanup crew, but said purpose was put on hold after the Knossos closed.  It's something to think about, anyway.

(Also, I'm not too keen on thinking of Bosch winding up as nothing more than a Shivan smoothie.  He was too cool for that. )

[QuantumDelta]

It meshes quite well, and I so freaking called it
Damn you tutta for playing it so close to the chest ;D

[Hellzed]

Some mission ideas :

1)
There is a strike at Freedom shipyards, Polaris. The shipyards have been bought by Akheton SDG and the rumor says they will fire the Terran workers. Vasudophopic speech is all over the civilian information network. The small vasudan tech crew is locked down inside the control center of the main Arcadia installation.
You have to escort an argo with the Polaris military police to the installation, destroying cargos arround the docking point to clear the path. The argo successfully docks, but the MP refuses to open fire at the shipyards workers crowd.
Then, some workers try to get to the Iceni (not complete yet) and sabotage it, you are ordered to disable their shuttle, but it blows up (that was an accident). The situation is still stuck aboard the Arcadia, but the shuttle inccident makes it turn bad : the workers start to depresurize the control center and will stop only if the shipyards are nationalized by the polaris government.
Then Bosch shows up with an Orion destroyer, makes a speech about retstored "social peace" and says he has full authority from the Polaris Government to restore social peace, and that starts with the shipyards nationalization. GTVA command does not respond for a moment, after that you have to return to base.

2)
Who is in charge in the Polaris system isn't clear anymore. Your command officer is wainting for new orders. The GTVA High Representative is unreachable. The Vasudan Trade and Recovery Office needs you to escort a vasudan convoy to a safer place, Sirius system.
During the mission, the convoy is ordered to power down its engines by NTF fighters because some vasudans aboard are accused of economic crimes under new Neo Terran Workers Protection Act. Half of the confoy powers down, the other will only respond to GTVA authority.
You head to the Sirius node as the NTF fighter turn hostile and try to engage the convoy. The other half of the convoy is destroyed, and your command officer advise you to get out of the system, because if you return to base you will face court martial.

But there is a court martial, and even if you are not convicted of killing "GTVA" pilots, but under Neo Terran Sirius Alliance officers pressure inside local GTVA, you resign and start working for a private military company...

x) Some mission about how Arthur Roemig turned into a SOC operative...

3)
Starting with the player trying to find the Trinity and retrieve a piece of data for the SOC before anyone (NTF, GTVA or Shivans) finds it. You kill Kappa because it spots your AWACS. You find the Trinity and have to persuade Roemig to send the file but he want's to be saved because he feels betrayed by the SOC, but you don't have support to help him, and the Aquitaine recon is closing on you.
Here, you have a choice : use a computer backdoor to extract the data, and feel like a son of a b**** (possibly repell some shivans during the transfer); talk him into beeing a hero ("If you die now, everything you have done for the SOC would have been useless") and lying to him, telling him you gave intelligence to the Aquitaine in order to retrieve the Trinity.
Then you are ordered to retreat to safe distance and call in bombers to wipe out the Trinity, because if the Vasudans learn about some Terrans inside the GTVI working with the NTF, some Vasudan Admirals could turn hostile to the GTVA (ant that happens during the main FS2 campaign in SOC deepcover operations).
The Alpha and Zetta wings shiw up first, and you are ordered to go on with the a fighter sweep, but Shivans show up just at this moment so you can watch the massacre from a safe place, and go home.

4)
A mission (or 2, or 3) a bout taking back home the 4 mara fighters recon emerging from the second knossos. Hiding with a science cruiser inside a debris field, escorting SOC folks to the last destroyer in the nebula, going to the rendez-vous point and finding a whole bunch of shivans and finally, escaping through the node...

5)
A mission about following a Sathanas trough subspace during the Capella event. Some king of Subspace Ops monitoring unknown subspace distorsion, but when everything goes wrong, the only way to survive would be to follow the Shivans to Shivantown. And perhaps finding Bosch. And a whole lot of nebulas. And ancients.

[SF-Junky]

Thank you, , for spilling all my good ideas for upcoming StormFront campaigns.

I need to be faster with finishing my stuff...

[Dilmah G]

This is pretty cool stuff, good work to everyone who was involved. Almost makes me kinda sad that they didn't make FS3 or the expansion pack.