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mr.WHO:
I have a questions about Ancients storyline for old Inferno.
I know there is unofficial Ancients pack/story in making, but because it is behind both Nostos and INF:A I do not expect the release before 2038, so I think revealing this part will not spoil anyting.

What was the planned Ancients story in Inferno? I assume some part of Ancients empire managed to survive/evacuate/cut away behind one of their Knossos and Shivans either didn't knew this or didn't know how to operate Knossos device.
In Ancients Juggernaut descriptions there was mention that Ancient-Shivan battles were spotted by GTVA, so I guess that Knossos was in Shivan territory and GTVA opened it after defeat for Gigas and push into Shivan space.

Were Ancients intended to be hostile or friendly towards GTVA? Were they intended to ally with GTVA in the end?
What was their relative power comparing to GTVA? From Tech entries description it was mentioned they have several Juggernauts and several Super Carriers, which put them slightly ahead of entire GTVA in terms of raw firepower. However for several thousand years since Ancient-Shivan war this seems quite small. Maybe the region they were hiding was small and limited resources?


Also in the very old Inferno Webpage there was tech entry in picture of another race that was "as old and as powerful as Shivans" - what was their story and purpose in old Inferno? Were they cooperating with Shivans, their masters, or some kind of competitors like Brahmans from Blue Planet?

Nightmare:
Here's some discussion about the old storyline, from that post onward to the end of the thread:
https://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=79199.msg1824996#msg1824996

I'd be happy to hear the full story, though.

Didn't knew there was ever something with Ancients since they apparently got removed some years ago.

mr.WHO:
Thanks, I knew I once asked these questions, but wasn't able to find them out :)

Nightmare:
Just rediscovered some image I made from briefing icons of the old INF releases (INFR1 and INFA). One or 2 of the thingsshown are probably from the unknown species, in particular the RakDest thing that was probably the one from the Screen you've seen. It's quite old - the Selket turned out to be part of Nostos and the Kurruk is probably from the Sobek-like corvette that went missing in the meantime. Not sure about the Echidna, recherche says it was apparently a Shivan megaship from Hidden Terror, dunno how it was related to INF.

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Woomeister:

--- Quote from: mr.WHO on July 12, 2018, 03:05:01 pm ---What was the planned Ancients story in Inferno? I assume some part of Ancients empire managed to survive/evacuate/cut away behind one of their Knossos and Shivans either didn't knew this or didn't know how to operate Knossos device.
In Ancients Juggernaut descriptions there was mention that Ancient-Shivan battles were spotted by GTVA, so I guess that Knossos was in Shivan territory and GTVA opened it after defeat for Gigas and push into Shivan space.
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IIRC the R4 stuff was behind a none Ancient portal. The Ancient portal stuff is actually for Gateways which I'd still like to get done at some point since it would be a different mission design to Nostos.


--- Quote from: mr.WHO on July 12, 2018, 03:05:01 pm ---Were Ancients intended to be hostile or friendly towards GTVA? Were they intended to ally with GTVA in the end?
What was their relative power comparing to GTVA? From Tech entries description it was mentioned they have several Juggernauts and several Super Carriers, which put them slightly ahead of entire GTVA in terms of raw firepower. However for several thousand years since Ancient-Shivan war this seems quite small. Maybe the region they were hiding was small and limited resources?
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Hostile, the GTVA gets in their way at that point of the story.


--- Quote from: mr.WHO on July 12, 2018, 03:05:01 pm ---Also in the very old Inferno Webpage there was tech entry in picture of another race that was "as old and as powerful as Shivans" - what was their story and purpose in old Inferno? Were they cooperating with Shivans, their masters, or some kind of competitors like Brahmans from Blue Planet?

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Basically the point of them was to make sure the Shivans didn't go too far with the destruction since the Shivans are capable of destroying entire solar systems. They generally leave each other alone though.


--- Quote from: Nightmare on July 12, 2018, 10:42:26 pm ---Not sure about the Echidna, recherche says it was apparently a Shivan megaship from Hidden Terror, dunno how it was related to INF.

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Nope, it was the other species ship and was around 120km IIRC.

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