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Offline Colonol Dekker

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War in Heaven speculation thread.
Firstly, i'm expecting NOBODY to bring release dates into this topic as it will only end up pissing off the BP team.
 
 
I was just sitting on the train into work and about two dozen ideas fluttered through my head.
 
Like, what if a solar force frigate was captured, what if they crashed the node again deliberately.
 
What if from the few GTVA ships that defected, solar forces get info with which they can do a wrath of khan style takeover of allied TEV vessels?
« Last Edit: August 07, 2010, 07:38:14 am by Darius »
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- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
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-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
What if from the few GTVA ships that defected, solar forces get info with which they can do a wrath of khan style takeover of allied TEV vessels?

I have enough faith in the team to believe they're not going to do anything remotely that retarded.
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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.

Like, what if a solar force frigate was captured, what if they crashed the node again deliberately.
 

Presumably the gate would keep it open.
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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
One of our goals was and is to portrait the GTVA and the UEF as very competent forces. A deus ex machina like that would not fit within the framework of the conflict we have in mind.

As for the node getting closed again, that would just make little sense. The UEF fights for the right to not be forcibly assimilated into the GTVA, not to be all alone once again.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
Hey hey, let's keep dev commentary out of the thread.

WE HAVE THE PREFIX CODES

 

Offline Ravenholme

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
Like, what if a solar force frigate was captured

I'd volunteer to take the captured Fed frigate on one last ride into hell (Preferably packed full of antimatter) - aka the nearest Fed shipyard.


FOR THE GTVA!
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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
What if from the few GTVA ships that defected, solar forces get info with which they can do a wrath of khan style takeover of allied TEV vessels?
You, sir, have just exchanged BSG geek cred for ST geek cred.  I heartily approve. :yes:

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
Lol appreciate the kudos. But I dunno where the BSG reference is =3 
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Offline Ravenholme

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
Lol appreciate the kudos. But I dunno where the BSG reference is =3 

I think that's his point, you've gone and lost some of your BSG-geek credit to ST geek credit ^^
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
Like, what if a solar force frigate was captured

I'd volunteer to take the captured Fed frigate on one last ride into hell (Preferably packed full of antimatter) - aka the nearest Fed shipyard.


FOR THE GTVA!
FOR THE REPUBLIC!

 

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
Lol appreciate the kudos. But I dunno where the BSG reference is =3  

I think that's his point, you've gone and lost some of your BSG-geek credit to ST geek credit ^^

 
 
I never knew I was considered a BSG geek, I've never even seen the new series lol. That 80's one with flying bikes is best :yes:
 
 
Anywaaaaaaay, from the limited understanding of UEF doctrine I have, am I right in thinking that their ground forces / ships defensive troops favour specialist high calibre training over numbers?
 
Just imagining a ground engagement / boarding action.
 
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I'M WITH YOU RAVENHOLME!
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The only good Zod is a dead Zod
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
So guys, how do you know flying bikes won't be in WiH?

 

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
Anywaaaaaaay, from the limited understanding of UEF doctrine I have, am I right in thinking that their ground forces / ships defensive troops favour specialist high calibre training over numbers?

How did you arrive at that conclusion? I am genuinely interested in the reasoning, as I am pretty sure we haven't published any info about the UEF Ground Forces....
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
FOR THE REPUBLIC!

At least make it a space sim reference, dammit!

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Offline Ravenholme

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
Like, what if a solar force frigate was captured

I'd volunteer to take the captured Fed frigate on one last ride into hell (Preferably packed full of antimatter) - aka the nearest Fed shipyard.


FOR THE GTVA!
FOR THE REPUBLIC!

Someone's been watching the "Hope" Trailer for The Old Republic, I'm guessing? :P

And, Hell yeah Dekker - Tevs forever! You man the tactical station, I've got the helm!

Edit:
That's actually why I hope the First Battle of Neptune and other GTVA scenarios will be included in the mission simulator - I really want to be able to fight for the right cause against those soft, peace-fattened Feds. And I just had an idea for an Alternate Universe campaign where the GTVA triumphs. I'd probably call it Entanglement in a not-to-subtle Half-Life 2 reference
« Last Edit: June 29, 2010, 07:00:04 am by Ravenholme »
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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
How did you arrive at that conclusion? I am genuinely interested in the reasoning, as I am pretty sure we haven't published any info about the UEF Ground Forces....

Some of you enjoy comparing them to The Culture far too much, forgetting The Culture wins because it's never faced an opponent of remotely comparable resources. :P
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Offline Dilmah G

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
Someone's been watching the "Hope" Trailer for The Old Republic, I'm guessing? :P

And, Hell yeah Dekker - Tevs forever! You man the tactical station, I've got the helm!

Edit:
That's actually why I hope the First Battle of Neptune and other GTVA scenarios will be included in the mission simulator - I really want to be able to fight for the right cause against those soft, peace-fattened Feds. And I just had an idea for an Alternate Universe campaign where the GTVA triumphs. I'd probably call it Entanglement in a not-to-subtle Half-Life 2 reference
That trailer was awesome. :D

By the way, Battle of Neptune is playable, but the other Terran mission (+ mini campaign) I played around with aren't really in a playable state. I'll put some effort in after first release and get them done for second, hopefully.

 

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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
How did you arrive at that conclusion? I am genuinely interested in the reasoning, as I am pretty sure we haven't published any info about the UEF Ground Forces....

Some of you enjoy comparing them to The Culture far too much, forgetting The Culture wins because it's never faced an opponent of remotely comparable resources. :P

Actually, the Idirans were fairly comparable - especially because they were a much more militaristic regime and The Culture had to pretty much work from a standing start against them - and they still won, even though the cost was high.

Edit:

That's great, Dilmah G, at least there will be some Tev love forthcoming from the dev team :D
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Re: War in Heaven speculation thread.
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Some of you enjoy comparing them to The Culture far too much, forgetting The Culture wins because it's never faced an opponent of remotely comparable resources.

Yes, but that was speculation and similes (some of it may have also been intentionally misleading). And just because I can say "This aspect of Ubuntu is sort of like The Culture" doesn't mean the entire UEF is a Culture expy.
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Some of you enjoy comparing them to The Culture far too much, forgetting The Culture wins because it's never faced an opponent of remotely comparable resources.

Yes, but that was speculation and similes (some of it may have also been intentionally misleading). And just because I can say "This aspect of Ubuntu is sort of like The Culture" doesn't mean the entire UEF is a Culture expy.

Yeah, I expect that the UEF would have a decent military - a bit like more hippy Starship Troopers (Films, not the books), and without their allergy to intelligent use of air and armour assets. But that secret militaristic arm of the Ubuntu (Feyadeen, something like that) is probably like a lower-tech Special Circumstances mated with the SAS.
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