[paralaje]

I think the title says it all, is there anything I can do (besides having a better computer) to prevent this? It makes choosing weapons a pain. I ticked the "Use models for weapon selection" on the launcher but that only works for missiles.

Also I should note the game runs really well even on my system. The only noticeable slowdowns I had were while playing Wings of Dawn (lots of stuff flying around).

[Parias]

System specs, log file?

[paralaje]

Systen specs:

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Pentium IV 2.26 GHz
1.25 GB RAM
Ati Radeon X1650
Windows XP SP2
Log file:

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==========================================================================
DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
==========================================================================
FreeSpace version: 3.6.12
Passed cmdline options:
  -spec_exp 8.2
  -spec_static 3.5
  -spec_point 8.6
  -spec_tube 1.0
  -ambient_factor 70
  -mipmap
  -glow
  -spec
  -3dshockwave
  -orbradar
  -rearm_timer
  -targetinfo
  -3dwarp
  -ship_choice_3d
  -weapon_choice_3d
  -snd_preload
  -mod valhalla,mediavps_3612
  -fps
  -window
Building file index...
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\valhalla\GTI-Bretonia.vp' with a checksum of 0x115d4cdc
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\valhalla\ITHOV.vp' with a checksum of 0xfb205528
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Advanced.vp' with a checksum of 0x4b8b0f5a
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_AnimGlows.vp' with a checksum of 0x6a554026
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Assets.3612.vp' with a checksum of 0x59649c21
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Assets.vp' with a checksum of 0x529cc70f
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Effects.3612.vp' with a checksum of 0x9c510aa0
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Effects.vp' with a checksum of 0xb9a9a485
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Music.vp' with a checksum of 0xb3e21469
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_RadarIcons.vp' with a checksum of 0x31dd7781
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Root.3612.vp' with a checksum of 0x7c9d7e74
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Root.vp' with a checksum of 0x6ffd5c78
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\multi-mission-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0x377695e0
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\multi-voice-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0xd50e7442
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa11d56f1
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd77da83a
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x86920b82
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x705e8d71
Found root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d
Searching root 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\valhalla\' ... 5 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\valhalla\GTI-Bretonia.vp' ... 15 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\valhalla\ITHOV.vp' ... 58 files
Searching root 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\' ... 1 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Advanced.vp' ... 1283 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_AnimGlows.vp' ... 1641 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Assets.3612.vp' ... 228 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Assets.vp' ... 1905 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Effects.3612.vp' ... 2 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Effects.vp' ... 1892 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Music.vp' ... 32 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_RadarIcons.vp' ... 24 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Root.3612.vp' ... 13 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\mediavps_3612\MV_Root.vp' ... 358 files
Searching root 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\' ... 17 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\multi-mission-pack.vp' ... 110 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\multi-voice-pack.vp' ... 307 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\Root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' ... 1337 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\stu_fs2.vp' ... 2355 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango1_fs2.vp' ... 32 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango2_fs2.vp' ... 15 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\tango3_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Archivos de programa\GOG.com\Freespace 2\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files
Found 26 roots and 14886 files.
Setting language to English
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_core-lcl.tbm' ...
Initializing OpenAL...
  Using 'Generic Software on SoundMAX Digital Audio' as OpenAL sound device...
  OpenAL Vendor     : Creative Labs Inc.
  OpenAL Renderer   : Software
  OpenAL Version    : 1.1

... OpenAL successfully initialized!
Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 1024x768 with 16-bit color...
  Initializing WGL...
  Requested WGL Video values = R: 5, G: 6, B: 5, depth: 16, double-buffer: 1
  Actual WGL Video values    = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
  OpenGL Vendor     : ATI Technologies Inc.
  OpenGL Renderer   : Radeon X1650 Series x86/SSE2
  OpenGL Version    : 2.0.6287 WinXP Release

  Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_point_sprite".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shading_language_100".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shader_objects".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_shader".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader".
  Using extension "GL_ATI_shader_texture_lod".
  Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT".

  Initializing Shaders Manager...
  Loading and compiling main shaders...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (null-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (null-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (b-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (b-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (b-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (bg-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lb-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbg-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbgs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lbs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfb-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbg-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbgs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (lf-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lfbs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (null-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lg-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (lgs-f.sdr) ...
    Compiling main shader ->  main-v.sdr (l-v.sdr) / main-f.sdr (ls-f.sdr) ...
  Shaders Manager initialized.

  Max texture units: 8 (16)
  Max elements vertices: 2147483647
  Max elements indices: 65535
  Max texture size: 4096x4096
  Can use compressed textures: YES
  Texture compression available: YES
  Using trilinear texture filter.
  Using GLSL for model rendering.
  Shader Version: 1.10
... OpenGL init is complete!
Size of bitmap info = 760 KB
Size of bitmap extra info = 52 bytes
ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence...
SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization...
LUA: Opening LUA state...
LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries...
LUA: Beginning ADE initialization
ADE: Initializing enumeration constants...
ADE: Assigning Lua session...
SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence....
Wokka!  Error opening file (scripting.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_flak-sct.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_dbrs-sct.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_exp-sct.tbm' ...
SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete.
SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked
SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run
SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run
Using high memory settings...
Wokka!  Error opening file (interface.tbl)!
WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-sdf.tbm' ...
ANI 2_radar1 with size 209x170 (33.6% wasted)
Windows reported 16 joysticks, we found 0
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_music-mus.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-mfl.tbm' ...
Wokka!  Error opening file (armor.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-amr.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wxp.tbm' ...
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp20.eff) with 75 frames at 20 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (ExpMissileHit1.eff) with 92 frames at 20 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp04.eff) with 49 frames at 22 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp05.eff) with 93 frames at 20 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (exp06.eff) with 92 frames at 22 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (capflash.eff) with 40 frames at 10 fps.
BMPMAN: Found EFF (Maxim_Impact.eff) with 23 frames at 30 fps.
ANI Lamprey_Impact with size 80x80 (37.5% wasted)
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_core-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_assets-wep.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-obt.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_core-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'radar-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_assets-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'GTI Bretonia-shp.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_core-hdg.tbm' ...
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-str.tbm' ...
loading animated cursor "cursor"
ANI cursor with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
MediaVPs: Flaming debris script loaded!
MediaVPs: Explosions script loaded!
Ships.tbl is : INVALID!!!!
Weapons.tbl is : INVALID!!!!
cfile_init() took 2785
Got event GS_EVENT_GAME_INIT (49) in state NOT A VALID STATE (0)
ANI cursor.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 1.244 (1.244)
Got event GS_EVENT_MAIN_MENU (0) in state GS_STATE_INITIAL_PLAYER_SELECT (37)
Someone passed an extension to bm_load for file '77th.pcx'
ANI 2_mainwalk.ani with size 209x477 (6.8% wasted)
ANI 2_mainflyby.ani with size 509x189 (26.2% wasted)
ANI 2_maincrane.ani with size 192x116 (9.4% wasted)
ANI 2_mainexit.ani with size 319x174 (32.0% wasted)
ANI 2_mainbarracks.ani with size 273x158 (38.3% wasted)
ANI 2_mainreadyroom.ani with size 231x145 (43.4% wasted)
ANI 2_maintechroom.ani with size 69x119 (7.0% wasted)
ANI 2_mainoptions.ani with size 337x206 (19.5% wasted)
ANI 2_maincampaign.ani with size 308x190 (25.8% wasted)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 0.772 (0.772)
ANI cursor.ani with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 2.383 (2.383)
Got event GS_EVENT_TECH_MENU (11) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1)
Techroom successfully initialized, now changing tab...
Loading model 'fighter01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'fighter01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0x3503498e, IBX checksum: 0x4024384c -- "fighter01.pof"
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 1.384 (1.384)
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 1.489 (1.489)
ANI Tech_Subach_HL-7.ani with size 440x200 (21.9% wasted)
ANI Tech_GTM_MX-64_Rockeye.ani with size 440x200 (21.9% wasted)
ANI Tech_Akheton_SDG.ani with size 440x200 (21.9% wasted)
Got event GS_EVENT_MAIN_MENU (0) in state GS_STATE_TECH_MENU (7)
Freeing all existing models...
Frame  0 too long!!: frametime = 2.298 (2.298)
Got event GS_EVENT_QUIT_GAME (5) in state GS_STATE_MAIN_MENU (1)
Freeing all existing models...
... Log closed, Fri Jan 21 21:10:57 2011

I should say that I'd be more than happy with any fix, even removing those animations completely.

Thanks in advance.

[FUBAR-BDHR]

First make sure both your desktop and the launcher are set to 32bit color.  Second move it out of program files to c:\games\Freespace 2.  Finally check the FAQ for the x1650 series cards.  There is a workaround for them.  It's basically an issue with that series of video cards. 

[paralaje]

Setting desktop and launcher to 32bit made no difference.
I read the FAQ before installing FS2 and I already applied the fix for this series of ATI cards. I'd rather not move the whole game to a new directory (unless it's really necessary) because it takes a long time and it'll probably cause problems.
I should say again that this is the only thing that seems to be malfunctioning for me, the game runs well without noticeable slowdowns.

Is there any way to remove the weapon videos from the weapon selection screen? That's all I need -.-

[SypheDMar]

Remove Weapon Choice 3D and the Advanced Mediavps. Would that change anything?

It's best to have FreeSpace in Games/FreeSpace/ because long directories seem to cause problems. It shouldn't be that hard to move it. Just copy and paste.

[paralaje]

Unticking Weapon Choice 3D makes the game load videos for secondary weapons as well, which means those lag me too.
Removed advanced mediavps, made no difference.

[SypheDMar]

Remove the AnimGlows as well. And has it ever been fast for you? If not, it might be because of the build. Also, you really should move FreeSpace to another directory. Yours is much too long. Disable the mediavps to make sure it's not that that is slowing you down.

[Mura]

Yeah, you should consider moving your folder to something like c:/games/freespace2 cuz long names can cause issues.

About the .ani animations, well... i had that issue for a long time too, never found a way to fix it, i think somewhere along the line the way they work got changed and resulted in them being sluggish on older systems, but i would have thought your system to be good enough for that. I hope someone with better technical knowledge can look at this and give you an answer that does help.

[paralaje]

I moved the game to C:\Freespace2 and tried without mediavps with no change

It's been a while since I last played FS2 but I'm 90% sure I did not have hits problem before because it's really annoying and I would remember.