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Colonol Dekker:
I like who in a casual way.   

wesp5:

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--- Quote from: starbug on September 29, 2021, 10:08:51 am ---Whats also good, is that he has been saying on Twitter that the studio has given him the budget to do it properly as CW are B5 fanboys.

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You hear that kind of thing from practically every project like this. Everyone's big fans, all the original creators are very excited, everything's great.

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Indeed, if Warner was such a big fan of B5, why hasn't there been a proper DVD remaster yet?

starbug:

--- Quote from: wesp5 on September 30, 2021, 03:36:53 am ---
--- Quote from: EatThePath on September 29, 2021, 04:17:35 pm ---
--- Quote from: starbug on September 29, 2021, 10:08:51 am ---Whats also good, is that he has been saying on Twitter that the studio has given him the budget to do it properly as CW are B5 fanboys.

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You hear that kind of thing from practically every project like this. Everyone's big fans, all the original creators are very excited, everything's great.

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Indeed, if Warner was such a big fan of B5, why hasn't there been a proper DVD remaster yet?

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The issue for remaster of babylon 5 is The series was shot on 35mm film in 16:9 widescreen, but was mastered on 4:3 video for home release. The plan was to create a widescreen version of the show to future-proof it for later generations, and a non-widescreen version for contemporary viewers. Unfortunately, a miscommunication and Warner Brothers' refusal to buy the effects team  $5,000 of equipment to allow for widescreen meant that the CGI and other vfx footage was only rendered and shot in 4:3 in the first place. When Warner Brothers wanted to create a widescreen version, they found that the live-action footage existed in widescreen but the CG and composites did not. Their only solution was to zoom into the effects images until it filled the widescreen image, at the expense of losing material from the top and bottom of the screen. This created various problems, most notably increased pixilation and "fuzziness" of the effects images and details being lost from the CG footage.

There were two solutions to this problem: either revert to the original 4:3 masters or re-render all of the CG and effects footage in native widescreen and HD. This latter approach would be mind-bogglingly expensive. A similar project in 2012-15 for Star Trek: The Next Generation cost well over $20 million and that was for a show where most of the effects were created in-camera, so were easier to recreate. The ST:TNG remaster project also bombed on home media release and never turned a profit. Babylon 5 had much, much more CGI and far more vfx shots than ST:TNG (even considering that TNG was 68 episodes longer than B5).

Simply the costs to do a proper remaster would be staggering, thats why there has been no remaster of Star Trek DS9, Voyager. It is actually cheaper to make a new show than to remaster the originals.

wesp5:

--- Quote from: starbug on September 30, 2021, 06:58:59 am ---It is actually cheaper to make a new show than to remaster the originals.

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How should this be possible when the new show would probably have even more CGI?

starbug:
Ok it may not be cheaper to make a new show i am just guessing that but doing a remaster of babylon 5 would be utterly, crazily expensive, the problem is you are having to recreate existing shots, matching them to the audio, as i doubt none of the audio files and scenes for the originals still exist other than in the final product.

So say recreating the space battles of Severed Dreams would take longer to make as you are trying to get the new shots to match the originals, your having to do it all from scratch, which takes longer to do and thus costs more money for the VFX team's time.

Now 20 million to do TNG, which had less CGI and VFX shots. To Redo the all the VFX and CGI, Interior CGI on greenscreen of babylon 5, bearing in mind that in TNG a lot of the space shots where model shots so on film and easier to make HD. Babylon your recreating everything for the models from scratch.  So i would expect the cost to be nearer the 30 million mark.

Would you fork out that money on a remaster project that realistically, based on star treks remasters you would not make that money back or come close. ST TNG is a very popular show and its remaster totally bombed in sales.

Also a new show may not have as much CGI, depends on the story JMS is wanting to tell.

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