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Offline Taristin

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That was freakin awesome! That's how an Orion should look!


Now if there was a tbl entry to make it smaller for certain ships (like my crimion should be at 45, but others could be 55...) :D:D:D

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that fov seems small.

try loading the model up in TS or something and placing the camera that far away and see what it looks like compared to the standard fov.
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I find that 0.35 - 0.45 is about right in most cases :D

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That was at 45, because my ship is only 10 meters long. I thought it was appropriate. And what are you talking about?


Edit: Ohh... Ok, I get it... But I doubt it'd change the fov in TS, since zoom is completely edittable in that too
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Offline Fry_Day

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Uh, what FOV setting are you giving them, Bobbau, vertical or horizontal?

By the way, someone mentioned that you can change the FOV in games like Unreal and Quake 3. That's true - in the console, the command "fov " works just fine, and if you're really lame, you can bind a key for setting the normal FOV, and one for a smaller FOV to get sniper-zoom with every weapon.

 

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Viewer_zoom, I set up a debug code so you can raise it or lower it by .1
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That view was from 800 meters away! That rawked. I gotta play with that some more, if only it wasn't so... annoying getting into the program
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if only it wasn't so... annoying getting into the program


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I gotta get this!

...I'm surprised no-one said anything about...:nervous:...

...I'll just download it...and show you later...

*runs off to see what the Gigas looks like with the improved fov*

 

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Increasing the sizes mean that the ship would look worse, at least its textures would be too small to be rendered nicely when somebody is close by.
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Thanks for your tenacity, Sandwich! Kudos! ;7

I have an idea...  I'll find some 3DS models of houses, trees, people, and normal everyday stuff that we have a reasonable sense of scale. Then I'll POF them to their proper size and test the view angle to find what looks the most realistic.

Actually I'm too busy right now. Someone else do it.
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I have an idea...  I'll find some 3DS models of houses, trees, people, and normal everyday stuff that we have a reasonable sense of scale. Then I'll POF them to their proper size and test the view angle to find what looks the most realistic.


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Offline Bobboau

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that EXE with the changeable FOV has just been updated with a new comand line option '-fov XX' so the line
"fs2_open_z.exe -fov .3 will give you an in game fov of .3"
note with this method you can give it a much more fine tuned fov rather than just moeing it by .1 incraments, you could for example set the fov to something weird like .476198423 if you so wanted
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The updated EXE along with the launcher has allowed me to see what's been done here, and I have a question. What exactly is changing, the viewpoint zoom factor? Because what I was originally looking for was a change in depth of field (again I refer to the scene in Fellowship of the Ring where Frodo looks along the path and warns everyone to get off the path. There is an excellent example there of a change in depth of field - without the zoom changing). Anyway, that is the kind of view change that will really fix the problem - simply modifying the zoom factor is not completely effective, although the difference even with this is really cool. ;)

Do you know what I mean, or should I see about putting up a video clip of that scene?
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"The very essence of tolerance rests on the fact that we have to be intolerant of intolerance. Stretching right back to Kant, through the Frankfurt School and up to today, liberalism means that we can do anything we like as long as we don't hurt others. This means that if we are tolerant of others' intolerance - especially when that intolerance is a call for genocide - then all we are doing is allowing that intolerance to flourish, and allowing the violence that will spring from that intolerance to continue unabated." - Bren Carlill

 

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I dont understand quite...


is it like max payne when in your drugged up and the corridor elongates before you.... kinda like fish eye view with out the major distotion... or something?
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Originally posted by LAW ENFORCER
I dont understand quite...


is it like max payne when in your drugged up and the corridor elongates before you.... kinda like fish eye view with out the major distotion... or something?


in the LotR scene Sandwich is talking about, the FOV change makes Frodo looks like he approches the camera, while the sceneray behind it looks like it's going away from the camera. looks dumb said like that, but it gives a great sense of vertigo.
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ah that yes I get it now!
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But is that possible?
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