[phreak]

bob i had to put the matrix initialization after the sky is drawn since there is no method to draw it in T&L yet.  we also need a way to draw lasers with T&L too since it wont work in OGL

[Bobboau]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
ambient light!! we want ambient light !

no actualy you want it, there have been a huge number of people asking for the abient light to be cut for years

[Lightspeed]

-Shine mapping still tend to flicker around
- non HT&L often crashes when explosions or missile trails are displayed
-scaling in tech room, ship info, and briefing icon info is totally screwed up (theyre way too huge in techroom and in briefing info, but the spinning ship model in the ship selection is around 30x30 pixles)
-Surprisingly bad framerates for HT&L, performance sometimes nearly as slow as non-HT&L mode, seems to happen randomly (didn't happen in earlier HT&L builds)
-Still getting lockups during game (which arent there with non HT&L)

[Lightspeed]

Originally posted by Bobboau

no actualy you want it, there have been a huge number of people asking for the abient light to be cut for years

i want it adjustable (both in fred and a multiplier in the launcher), so everyone would be happy. And btw FYI i'm not the only one who wants it... Ask Setekh

[Flipside]

Ok, yep, the Beam Weapon thingy is a particle trail and yes, it is way overdone, I was only adding the ships as a test.
The game was running in DirectX. I'm going to try it without the particle trailed ships in it shortly and see if that changes anything

Flipside

[Bobboau]

it probly won't, most likely it's getting drawn in the same position as the ships your fighting

[Flipside]

You're right, it didn't, and that would explain why it suddenly fixes itself when the last Shivan is destroyed.

Flipside

[Lt.Cannonfodder]

Originally posted by Lightspeed


i want it adjustable (both in fred and a multiplier in the launcher), so everyone would be happy.

This would be good. Right now I can't see what I'm shooting at

[Kakis]

This build is working alright for me. Feels slower than the last one I tested though.

The nebula feels better, there are still some issues like that some kind of debris and weapos impact can be seen through the fog on long range when the really should have been hidden by the fog.

All models in like tech database, briefing and targeting are too large. This wasn't in some other ht&l build, but I guess you know about anyway.

Sometimes gunfire (noticed it in a normal mission) seems to draw through ships. It's not that common and not that much though. This time I noticed a fighter mounted subach.

Perhaps sligthly off topic:
Otherwise I was mostly annoyed by the "ignore my target bug" and the "target in reticle bug". I have actually tried (like a week ago) to figure out the target in reticle bug. I got the point where I knew what the reticle targeting code did (sort of) but no further.

[Flipside]

Hmmmmm.... Just tried the background thing in the _t build, and apart from a slight case of the 'lines' problem, it worked fine

Just thought it might help

Flipside

[Kazan]

no launcher multiplier on the ambient light - but fred is good

(letting a user adjust it could be used to cheat in multiplayer)

[Wes]

Everything is very dark compared to the last official release. Apart from that it runs well.

[Lightspeed]

Originally posted by Kazan
no launcher multiplier on the ambient light - but fred is good

(letting a user adjust it could be used to cheat in multiplayer)

i dont think setting high ambient light is cheating.

Also, if it is considered cheating, use missions with 0.0 ambient light, that way it will always be 0 since 0*x = 0.

Although you could simply turn the brightness higher.

I really dont think it would have any great advantage...

[Bobboau]

stealth fighters, you can play yourself so the bright blue part is always pointing away from who you are fighting, they have a greatly hardler time trying to shoot you.

[Flipside]

Very slight update on the background thingy, it seems to happen with any ship I target, regardless of race....

My problem seems to be heading curiously towards Kakis' one

[Nifelheim]

I have some problems using OpenGL. I'm with GF4 MX 420 (I know it sucks, but that's what happens when you're ill and your mother has to upgrade your PC). Some objects are rendered in front of other, but, in fact, they must be hidden behind the second objects. Example: Orion's turrets (V's Orion) render in front of the hull, thile they must be hidden behind it. Oh, ahd I have some rendering problems with Aracania. The walls around the hole aren't rendered while looking through them. They act like the polys are flipped.

I have taken some screenshots, but can't upload it anywhere therefore can't show it here. Anyone wanna help here?

[Bobboau]

"I have some problems using OpenGL."

ok, I think I have identifyed the problem.
OGL isn't working yet, it is comeing along but it's not working yet, and especaly in that build it doesn't work

[Nifelheim]

aha, well, thanks for clearing that up...

[Fry_Day]

HT&L OpenGL is coming along nicely. I'm hoping for a working release (With fully working lighting, and correct rendering of 2d stuff) before I go to the army in the worst case.

[phreak]

uh when is that?  almost everything but lasers and starfields work correctly, and im working on the lasers