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They probably took the guy who was most fit to do the job, and he happened to be Terran.

Yeah, he was probably the most senior Admiral in the fleet that wanted the job.  I'd imagine maybe a few turned it down to stay with their fleets.  And there was probably some kind of politics involved too.

 

Offline Snail

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The same goes for the Vasudans. What if there are members in the crew who don't want to defect to the HOL?

CO. "Helm, set course for the HOL."
Helm: "Yes, sir"

No... not like this.

CO. "Helm, set course for the HOL."
Helm: "Uhh... Where might that be?"

I think the Terrans defecting to the NTF is a far more credible threat than the Vasudans defecting to the HOL.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Indeed, but there's still one variable. If the crew is selected and calculated in the spirit of the alliance, the Terrans and the Vasudans aboard should be about 50-50 (not 50-60 like one of our national heroes would say). Therefore, if for example the Terrans decided to defect to the NTF, the Vasudans aboard would surely put up some fight. The same goes for the scenario where the Vasudans decided to join the HOL. It wouldn't make sense for the Terrans to just hang around in that situation. And why all of these assumptions? Mainly since the NTF opposes the Vasudans and the HOL opposes anyone who doesn't want to be exterminated by the Shivans. The NTF wouldn't want any Vasudans in their ranks, likewise the HOL wouldn't want any Terrans among their ranks.

Then again, there's also the fact that no one has heard of the HOL since the events of Silent Threat, so we just might assume that they're effectively gone. So the threat of the NTF remains, but even in that case I'm sure that the Vasudans onboard would protest against any attempts to defect.

Conclusion: a defection aboard the Colossus would be difficult to perform since there's always one side (mainly the Vasudans) that would either stop the whole mess or at least send a heads-up to GTVA Command about an ongoing mutiny.
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14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

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01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

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14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

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Offline Snail

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The Colossus may have been most Terran commanded because if it was commanded by Vasudans, then they might have defected to the HOL.

My post was mainly in response to this post, not the one I quoted (a small mistake since I couldn't be bothered to quote this one).

And you're absolutely right, Lobo. Having the Colossus mostly Terran is not a good idea in this area, since the Terrans are more likely to defect than the Vasudans.

 
Plus, you have to take into account the size of the crew of the ship. There is no way that a significant percentage of over 30,000 crewmen will be defectors.  Theoretically, a small team of defectors could take over the bridge, but even then, it's not like 30,000 people would not put up a fight

 

Offline Snail

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I was under the impression the 30,000 people would have a job at the engine room, gunners, etc., so even if the defectors did take over the bridge, they wouldn't have too much power over the ship.

 

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They weren't supposed to take control of the whole ship! They just had to disarm the beams for a while. A small team can do something like that.
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Offline Jeff Vader

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I was under the impression the 30,000 people would have a job at the engine room, gunners, etc., so even if the defectors did take over the bridge, they wouldn't have too much power over the ship.
Precicamente, amigo. There'd be some dialogue along the lines of:

-"Sir, a group of defectors took over the bridge!"
-"What? Well, **** them. Let's go and tear the engines apart."

They weren't supposed to take control of the whole ship! They just had to disarm the beams for a while. A small team can do something like that.
Yes, but we were talking about a mutiny aboard the Collie in general, not referring to the happenings in Gamma Draconis.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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Offline Snail

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Yes. A theoretical mutiny, possibly before its first combat deployment.