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Offline NGTM-1R

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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
The lack of concern with planets or resources is quite possibly a red herring. The Shivans appear to be operating under plans that are too short-term in scope for either of those things to be valuable; exploiting either would require developing infrastructure and the like, which takes time.

The presumable ultimate Shivan plan in FS1, involving the glassing of every world in Terran-Vasudan space, would take perhaps six months. Unless they were prepared with prefabricated factories, mines, and a large noncombat fleet just laying around, this isn't really enough time; furthermore the Shivans didn't see a need to reinforce their existing expedition, although there was apparently a source of supply somewhere beyond Ross 128. (Which makes what happened to said source one of the great unacknowledged mysteries of FreeSpace.)

The ultimate Shivan plan of FS2, which we saw executed in the Capella supernova (assuming the supernova was intended) and whatever caused it, is even shorter than that in scope.
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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
(Which makes what happened to said source one of the great unacknowledged mysteries of FreeSpace.)

Wasn't that covered in Blue Planet?
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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
The presumable ultimate Shivan plan in FS1, involving the glassing of every world in Terran-Vasudan space, would take perhaps six months. Unless they were prepared with prefabricated factories, mines, and a large noncombat fleet just laying around, this isn't really enough time; furthermore the Shivans didn't see a need to reinforce their existing expedition, although there was apparently a source of supply somewhere beyond Ross 128. (Which makes what happened to said source one of the great unacknowledged mysteries of FreeSpace.)
I thought they'd only want to glass the two equally most important planets, Earth and Vasuda Prime. That would take considerably shorter time. The rest may supposedly be able to wipe out slowly and easily.

 

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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
(Which makes what happened to said source one of the great unacknowledged mysteries of FreeSpace.)

Wasn't that covered in Blue Planet?

Was it? If it was, then in a totally non-canon way. :P

 

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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
I think I'm referring to the mission titled "Enter the Dragon" or something like that.
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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
shivans are like pigeons... they are mean, just plain mean and they are trying to conquer the entire world!
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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
I thought they were more like vultures.
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Offline General Battuta

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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
I think I'm referring to the mission titled "Enter the Dragon" or something like that.

I think you're referring to the
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existence of the Knossos in N362
, beyond Ross 128.

As Darius said, totally non-canon.

 

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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
You're likening the Shivans to pigeons and vultures?

 

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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
pigeons... really mean pigeons that travel in subspace.
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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
*Mongoose turns on High Max's sarcasm detector* :p

 

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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
No, he has a significant point. Someone called them vultures. Vultures prey on the weak and wounded...

 

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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
There much more like pigeons, they eat bread and walk with a limp.

 

Offline Blue Lion

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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
No, he has a significant point. Someone called them vultures. Vultures prey on the weak and wounded...

I thought that was what they did?

 

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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
No, he has a significant point. Someone called them vultures. Vultures prey on the weak and wounded...

I thought that was what they did?
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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
Prey on the weak and wounded

 

Offline Snail

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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
Since when did they bloody do that?

 

Offline Kie99

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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
The enemies we know the Shivans have fought are weak in comparison to the Shivans.
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Offline eliex

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Re: What drives the Shivans so hard?
Yes, partially.
The Ancient race, which dominated all the other races they encountered were defeated by the Shivans proving them weaker. From what we know, only the Terran and Vasudan race have actually managed to achieve major victories against the Shivans they encountered but suffered heavily because of that.