[wistler]

I think I preferred GC2 gameplay for the fact you could call in fresh troops which made the game less about trying to keep every unit alive and freed up the fun.
Could have done without the aliens though.

[0rph3u5]

It is hard to find any RTS/RTT game that makes you care for the characters or the setting. There is a huge disconnection caused by the way the gameplay is done: "They blew up that factory with all the workers inside? No problem! Just queue up another one."

 The gameplay & the story must work together to make us want to care. RTS/RTTs are bad at this simply because of their mechanics, or at least their execution is not well done.

Supreme Commander and Forged Alliance - Cybran Nation FTW!

Universe at War: Earth Assault; though here the Hirarchy campaign only (others were really meh, and the game balance is really off sometimes)

It is hard to find any RTS/RTT game that makes you care for the characters or the setting. There is a huge disconnection caused by the way the gameplay is done: "They blew up that factory with all the workers inside? No problem! Just queue up another one."

 The gameplay & the story must work together to make us want to care. RTS/RTTs are bad at this simply because of their mechanics, or at least their execution is not well done.

Homeworld, Ground Control 2, MechCommander, XCOM

+1

Second everything Batts said about GC/GC2

They are exceptions over the rule. You get that, right? 4‱

The 'rule' is wrong; there are no structural impediments to an RTS making you care about its characters or story. In fact they're ripe for the kind of emergent narrative that really gets people attached to their units. The problem is simply that most designers don't leverage this space.

+1

I think I preferred GC2 gameplay for the fact you could call in fresh troops which made the game less about trying to keep every unit alive and freed up the fun.

I have the opposite reaction ... Leveling up my Hoverdynes and keeping them alive really added depth to the gameplay I found lacking in GC2 (and keeping units alive wasn't that hard 'cause as soon as got artiellery you simply shell the sh*t out of anything that could be an enemy position in advance and then roll ini)

Also: No mention of dawn of war? Speess Mariness!

SI ND RI !!
And that's about it you can like about DoW1/DoW2/DoW2:Ret (and that from a WH40k fan)

DoW2:Chaos Rising was very good though ... however it is more RPG'ish than RTS'ish

[NGTM-1R]

Nanuchka III Glint o7 o7 o7

One of the happiest memories I have of gaming in general was finally finding a way to save the USS Thorn in Fortress Keflavik.

o7 to the SH-60s. It took two years, but we got that damn Victor III first.

[redsniper]

Kharak is burning...

[Scourge of Ages]

Care like 'yo, this cloned-cannon-fodder-slave-soldiers **** is a really really bad idea', or care like 'I can't lose Naj-Zero cause he's the bestest cybrid slaying superman ever, i'ma gonna throw the rest of them at that Nihilus so he doesn't die?'

Er, the second one. Even though the first thing is true, they're still your dudes, you get a little attached.

[bigchunk1]

Out of genuine curiosity though, who here is actually considering the purchase of this game and why do they?

Eh, no multiplayer changes? A more rapid release? I think I might pass on this one unless they drop the price to something like $15.



RTS games can have good stories. I think WIC is a good example. I genuinely cared for that story, regardless of how believable a russian invasion was, it was really well executed. Even the soviet assault expansion was good, and in some ways it was better.

I also liked company of heroes. When you're out of ideas for a story, history is usually a good place to find one. I am really anticipating the release of COH2. I think it will be good. 

[Mongoose]

I rather enjoyed the story of Age of Mythology myself.  It was basically a big goofy crossover fanfic of Greek, Egyptian, and Norse mythology.

[0rph3u5]

When you're out of ideas for a story, history is usually a good place to find one.

If you enjoy getting yourself caught in a web of bias, favourism, chauvinism and authenticity debates, then yes.

[bigchunk1]

When you're out of ideas for a story, history is usually a good place to find one.

If you enjoy getting yourself caught in a web of bias, favourism, chauvinism and authenticity debates, then yes.

I didn't say it had to be true.