Author Topic: Why Blue?  (Read 14246 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline General Battuta

  • Poe's Law In Action
  • 214
  • i wonder when my postcount will exceed my iq
Guys there are no centrifugal generators

 

Offline Snail

  • SC 5
  • 214
  • Posts: ☂
There are no Shivans in BWO.

 

Offline The E

  • He's Ebeneezer Goode
  • 213
  • Nothing personal, just tech support.
    • Steam
    • Twitter
There is no Gargant.
If I'm just aching this can't go on
I came from chasing dreams to feel alone
There must be changes, miss to feel strong
I really need lifе to touch me
--Evergrey, Where August Mourns

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

  • Captain Obvious
  • 212
  • Frenchie McFrenchface
There is no Spoon.
People are stupid, therefore anything popular is at best suspicious.

Mod management tools     -     Wiki stuff!     -     Help us help you

666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 
based on observations, as only the new ships GTVA like Raynor and the Chimera, this type of weapon used,

placing a queen Ice Beam Cannon in a GTD Hecate, (assuming that a reactor was a chaplain is able to feed)

the beam of light will remain thin, very cohesion, and accurate, but green, maintain the properties of cohesion and precision for designing the beam cannon, but maybe would lose rank and damage to be powered by a standard reactor, and not a new-generation reactor (Meson)


understanding that the color blue was chosen aesthetically, it will only look for a logical, to be applied, but also explained the weapons when they are, more lethal sound xD

Thanks for responding!

 

Offline Luis Dias

  • 211
Actually the idea of updating older weapons not with the punch of the new, but as if they are better optimized with new technologies and new "focusing" ideas, etc. sounds pretty well.

 

Offline crizza

  • 210
Reminds me a little bit of the Iowas or Midway...how is this called in englisch...combat refit?

 

Offline The E

  • He's Ebeneezer Goode
  • 213
  • Nothing personal, just tech support.
    • Steam
    • Twitter
based on observations, as only the new ships GTVA like Raynor and the Chimera, this type of weapon used,

placing a queen Ice Beam Cannon in a GTD Hecate, (assuming that a reactor was a chaplain is able to feed)

The problem is, in BP fluff, retrofitting the new beams on the old ships is not an option for the GTVA, given that they are rather spending the money on entirely new ships. In addition, the new beam designs are a big departure from the old ones, and retrofitting is not a straightforward procedure.
If I'm just aching this can't go on
I came from chasing dreams to feel alone
There must be changes, miss to feel strong
I really need lifе to touch me
--Evergrey, Where August Mourns

 

Offline Snail

  • SC 5
  • 214
  • Posts: ☂
In the case of the Aeolus though, they're building entirely new ships, so it's not so really retrofitting.

 

Offline Dragon

  • Citation needed
  • 212
  • The sky is the limit.
Aeolus, though, was designed with old beams in mind.
Since new beams are power hungry, large and require a special kind of emiter (as seen on most new GTVA ships), adding them to Aeolus is not worth the cost, since used properly, it shouldn't need to use them, being an antifighter ship.

 
Aeolus, though, was designed with old beams in mind.
Since new beams are power hungry, large and require a special kind of emiter (as seen on most new GTVA ships), adding them to Aeolus is not worth the cost, since used properly, it shouldn't need to use them, being an antifighter ship.


yes, it is useless to adapt the GTC Aeolus to use the new beam emitters, and that other ships met the anti-capital function much better than this, and besides its main role is to ship escort

but taking the conversation a little later I think it can be quite helpful for GTVA, place a beam emitters "Ice Queen" at the tip of the GTD Hecate

Replacing the Crypt Hammer, changing the beam emitter, and adapting it to be used by Hecate, would be a sort of "Green Queen", less effective than the "Ice Queen" yes, of course, but I'm sure that the modification will would give a little more range and higher precision and talking about a destroyer, I think the modification may be worth,
 

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

  • Captain Obvious
  • 212
  • Frenchie McFrenchface
If the upgrade is doing only that, increasing slightly the range/power, then it's definitely not worth it. Crypt Hammers (BGreens for those who don't read tech descriptions) are much cheaper than retrofitting the destroyer, they are reliable, and they are easily overloaded, which, according to the tech description, has become common practice since the whole technology got perfected. This is used and abused in WiH in both missions where Hecates are involved.

This kind of stability and reliability won't be found on jury-rigged retrofit.
People are stupid, therefore anything popular is at best suspicious.

Mod management tools     -     Wiki stuff!     -     Help us help you

666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 
If the upgrade is doing only that, increasing slightly the range/power, then it's definitely not worth it. Crypt Hammers (BGreens for those who don't read tech descriptions) are much cheaper than retrofitting the destroyer, they are reliable, and they are easily overloaded, which, according to the tech description, has become common practice since the whole technology got perfected. This is used and abused in WiH in both missions where Hecates are involved.

This kind of stability and reliability won't be found on jury-rigged retrofit.

there is no way of knowing how it would affect the modification, that is something that only BP guys know ^ ^

it can increase the range, I'm sure, I think the theory is more cohesion = more can stretch if you lose the ability to do damage

 

Offline SypheDMar

  • 210
  • Student, Volunteer, Savior
    • Minecraft
there is no way of knowing how it would affect the modification, that is something that only BP guys know ^ ^
They don't know a thing 'til they make it. :nervous:

 
there is no way of knowing how it would affect the modification, that is something that only BP guys know ^ ^
They don't know a thing 'til they make it. :nervous:

Touche

 

Offline -Norbert-

  • 211
But why would they improve the Hecates anti-capship capabilities, when they try to avoid putting the Hecate in that situation as much as they possibly can. The Hecate is a carrier, not a destroyer hunter.
For that you got strike corvettes and in really tight situations Titans, Raynors or even Orions.
And while it isn't specifically mentioned in any fluff I read, I wouldn't be surprised if the GTVA has plans to phase out their Hecates and replace them with Titans as soon as the got enough of those build.

 

Offline headdie

  • i don't use punctuation lol
  • 212
  • Lawful Neutral with a Chaotic outook
    • Minecraft
    • Skype
    • Twitter
    • Headdie on Deviant Art
Because every time the Hecates got jumped during the NTF/2nd Shivan conflicts they got creamed
Minister of Interstellar Affairs Sol Union - Retired
quote General Battuta - "FRED is canon!"
Contact me at [email protected]
My Release Thread, Old Release Thread, Celestial Objects Thread, My rubbish attempts at art

 

Offline Luis Dias

  • 211
Putting a better beam up front wouldn't help much. The UEF would just try to pin them down from other angles, and then you'd have wasted millions of credits for nuthin'.

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

  • Captain Obvious
  • 212
  • Frenchie McFrenchface
Yup. Not to mention how fragile the beam dishes are, already on a reliable design, would probably be even more fragile on a jury-rigged retrofit.

The Hecate is just not a anti-cap design. They're already being phased out, as quickly as the GTVA can build Titans and Raynors, aka slowly.
People are stupid, therefore anything popular is at best suspicious.

Mod management tools     -     Wiki stuff!     -     Help us help you

666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
bigchunk1: ...

batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 
Yup. Not to mention how fragile the beam dishes are, already on a reliable design, would probably be even more fragile on a jury-rigged retrofit.

The Hecate is just not a anti-cap design. They're already being phased out, as quickly as the GTVA can build Titans and Raynors, aka slowly.
Ok!..
if the titan is excellent, Hecate paresca makes a piece of trash