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Offline ShadowWolf_IH

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Singh's Background Emporium
singh you are a background master, i am very impressed
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Offline Turambar

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Singh's Background Emporium
now do the campaign
10:55:48   TurambarBlade: i've been selecting my generals based on how much i like their hats
10:55:55   HerraTohtori: me too!
10:56:01   HerraTohtori: :D

 

Offline Singh

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Turambar: What campiagn?

Anyways, small bump. New set should be up later tonight + screenies for both, it and the old one. :D
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Offline Turambar

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Singh's Background Emporium
the main FS2 campaign, only with properly arranged versions of the nebulas
10:55:48   TurambarBlade: i've been selecting my generals based on how much i like their hats
10:55:55   HerraTohtori: me too!
10:56:01   HerraTohtori: :D

 

Offline Singh

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Well, we'll see about that. Sounds like a good idea tho.

Anyways - for some strange reason, FS2 refuses to allow me to take any screenshots! Pressing print screen doesn't produce anything, so its rather confusing! Once I can get it to work, i'll put up some screenshots. Till then, here is the code for the new background:

#Background bitmaps      ;! 35 total

$Num stars: 2000
$Ambient light level: 0
$Sun: SunGold
+Angles: 0.261799 0.000000 0.750491
+Scale: 2.000000
$Sun: SunWhite
+Angles: 0.000000 0.000000 3.141590
+Scale: 0.500000
$Sun: SunWhite
+Angles: 1.570795 0.000000 0.000000
+Scale: 1.000000
$Starbitmap: nebulG7-whisp
+Angles: 0.069813 0.000000 0.698131
+ScaleX: 4.000000
+ScaleY: 4.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulG4-whisp
+Angles: 0.244346 0.000000 0.453785
+ScaleX: 3.000000
+ScaleY: 3.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulG6-whisp
+Angles: 0.418879 1.762781 0.855211
+ScaleX: 3.000000
+ScaleY: 2.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulG10-whisp
+Angles: 0.523598 1.431169 0.698131
+ScaleX: 3.000000
+ScaleY: 3.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulG11-whisp
+Angles: 0.366519 2.792525 0.628318
+ScaleX: 2.000000
+ScaleY: 3.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulG2-main
+Angles: 0.069813 0.000000 0.872664
+ScaleX: 3.000000
+ScaleY: 3.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulG8-whisp
+Angles: 0.087266 4.991638 0.994837
+ScaleX: 4.000000
+ScaleY: 4.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulG9-whisp
+Angles: 0.680678 5.934114 0.872664
+ScaleX: 5.000000
+ScaleY: 5.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulG13-whisp
+Angles: 0.733038 1.570795 0.698131
+ScaleX: 4.000000
+ScaleY: 4.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulG8-whisp
+Angles: 0.261799 1.570795 0.314159
+ScaleX: 4.000000
+ScaleY: 4.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulG10-whisp
+Angles: 0.000000 5.951568 0.418879
+ScaleX: 5.000000
+ScaleY: 4.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulH1-main
+Angles: 6.108647 0.000000 3.141590
+ScaleX: 5.000000
+ScaleY: 5.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulH2-main
+Angles: 0.349066 0.000000 3.141590
+ScaleX: 5.000000
+ScaleY: 5.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulH3-main
+Angles: 0.000000 0.000000 3.141590
+ScaleX: 5.000000
+ScaleY: 5.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulH5-whisp
+Angles: 0.000000 0.000000 3.490656
+ScaleX: 5.000000
+ScaleY: 5.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulH2-main
+Angles: 0.000000 0.000000 2.792525
+ScaleX: 5.000000
+ScaleY: 5.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulH2-main
+Angles: 5.934114 0.000000 3.490656
+ScaleX: 4.000000
+ScaleY: 4.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulH1-main
+Angles: 6.038835 0.349066 2.600538
+ScaleX: 5.000000
+ScaleY: 5.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulE3-main
+Angles: 0.000000 0.000000 5.061451
+ScaleX: 5.000000
+ScaleY: 5.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: planeta1
+Angles: 0.296706 0.000000 4.939278
+ScaleX: 0.150000
+ScaleY: 0.150000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulE3-main
+Angles: 6.230820 3.141590 4.485493
+ScaleX: 6.000000
+ScaleY: 6.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulE3-main
+Angles: 0.331612 0.000000 5.323250
+ScaleX: 4.000000
+ScaleY: 6.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulD2-main
+Angles: 5.829395 3.141590 5.201077
+ScaleX: 4.000000
+ScaleY: 4.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulD1-main
+Angles: 1.658062 0.942477 5.113811
+ScaleX: 5.000000
+ScaleY: 5.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulB3-main
+Angles: 1.291543 2.007127 6.073741
+ScaleX: 5.000000
+ScaleY: 5.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulF2-main
+Angles: 1.745328 2.513272 6.073741
+ScaleX: 3.000000
+ScaleY: 4.000000
+DivX: 1
+DivY: 1
$Starbitmap: nebulH2-main
+Angles: 1.832594 3.316123 0.174533
+ScaleX: 4.000000
+ScaleY: 4.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulG6-whisp
+Angles: 1.431169 0.488692 0.191986
+ScaleX: 4.000000
+ScaleY: 4.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulG2-main
+Angles: 1.134463 0.942477 0.471239
+ScaleX: 5.000000
+ScaleY: 5.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulG5-whisp
+Angles: 0.959930 0.000000 0.698131
+ScaleX: 4.000000
+ScaleY: 4.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulH2-main
+Angles: 2.181660 0.000000 0.349066
+ScaleX: 6.000000
+ScaleY: 6.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulH4-whisp
+Angles: 2.548179 0.000000 0.523598
+ScaleX: 4.000000
+ScaleY: 4.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulD2-main
+Angles: 1.832594 0.000000 5.305797
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+ScaleY: 3.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulD8-whisp
+Angles: 1.832594 2.495819 5.619956
+ScaleX: 3.000000
+ScaleY: 3.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
$Starbitmap: nebulF2-main
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+ScaleX: 3.000000
+ScaleY: 3.000000
+DivX: 5
+DivY: 5
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Offline Kie99

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Singh's Background Emporium
You can just paste the screenshot into paint.
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Offline NumNuts

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Re: Singh's Background Emporium
Ok, now that the new nebulas are publicly available [check milliways!]...
This may be considered old by todays standards, but I am looking for generic artwork such as Singh's work in this thread. However I'm not sure how they are implemented. Of course I understand that the text based code can simply be inserted into the mission xxx.fs2 file using a text editor but that does not explain where these nebulas actually come from.
The only reference made above is to "milliways", so I assume that's here; Milliways Download List
Now there is several options, I started with the 'Nebula Patch for Freespace2' but it does not contain some of the names listed in Singh code. The other options are of course 'Replacement Sun images for Freespace2 Open', and the DDS/TGA variants of 'Freespace 2: High Resolution Planet Background Images'.
Now can someone please explain Exactly what has to be downloaded from 'milliways' and how to implement it so you can see Singh's work? ie...File structure = Where do I put the .tga images for them to overwrite using FS2 default ones in FRED?
This may be common knowledge for most people but noobs like myself have no direction whatsoever, not even a basic readme, and I think it would be essential to have such info. in this thread.
Thanks for any information you can provide.

 

Offline Singh

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Re: Singh's Background Emporium
Hi,

Firstly: Welcome to HLP

Second: You dont need to go to Milliways for the nebs anymore. They have been included into the Media VPs in one of the VP files. You can either get 3.6.7 (more stable) or 3.6.8. (less stable, more pretty stuff) and it should be there already :)

Hope that helps :)
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Offline NumNuts

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Re: Singh's Background Emporium
Ok, I'm running 3.6.7 but none of the default .vp's or even the effect.vp's available from SCP .vp files have the same naming format as yours in this thread. Actually both default /effect and the effect.vp's only contain a naming pattern like neb01-18 and dneb01-18 plus some planets. I can not find anything remotely like nebulH13-whisp or nebulH2-main for example in any of the .vps.
Now either the code names have changed since your original posts or I'm missing something all together. I do like the look of your pics but still at a loss how to translate the code into todays 3.6.7 vps. Have you got a key that translates old names into new names???? (assuming thats whats happened)??

 

Offline Singh

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Re: Singh's Background Emporium
Damnit, you're right.

I just realized that the ones I had were in my desperation mod folder.

Anyways, I'll zip mine up and upload them here, since finding it in the other posts will require a search, and, well, this is stickied anyway.

Give me an hour or two, and i'll put it up. :)
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Offline NumNuts

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Re: Singh's Background Emporium
Thankyou kindly. Greatly appreciated.  :)

 

Offline Singh

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Re: Singh's Background Emporium
Yup, uploaded to here.

All textuers into  data\effects and tables file into the data\tables

one problem: i cant find my original stars.tbl file, so i hijacked the derelict re-release one and used thatinstead. You'll have access to the new nebs, but not the old ones, sadly :(
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Offline karajorma

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Re: Singh's Background Emporium
The Nebs weren't included in the media VPs as they are only used in 3rd party campaigns.

Now if we ever get around to replacing the backgrounds in the :v: missions.....
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Offline NumNuts

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Re: Singh's Background Emporium
Ok, Still got problems. :mad2:
Although now I see the new naming sequence in FRED, it does not list ALL of nebs in the effects folder, it runs out at F9, thus making the rest of the F's, G's, H's and I's not rendered.
For example, I put a copy of your "Hell's Inferno" into a mission via text editing, loaded it in FRED, and althought the background editor listed the proper names (G-series) of placed nebs, the selection list didnt. Alas there were no background nebs showing in FRED. So I thought maybe the Game will still render them, but no, it didn't.  :(
Is FRED limited to how many nebs it can display in the background editor?
Why doesnt the game render types that FRED doesnt list when the file names are correct and the files are in their respective folder?
ie. If I use one of your other releases such as "Sinister Creation" where it uses the "A" group primarily, they show up in-game and in-FRED.
FRED version I'm using is 'fred2_open_r_08282005'
Sorry for all the questioning, just trying to wrap my head around whats happening.  :doubt:

 

Offline karajorma

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Re: Singh's Background Emporium
The tables Singh gave you are incomplete.

Use these instead and you'll get everything (including the retail stuff). Although there is no I series of nebs. I think you're misreading the H's as I's (I did that once myself).

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Offline NumNuts

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Re: Singh's Background Emporium
Thanks a million Karajorma, all is as I expected now with your "stars.tbl"
I really must get my I's checked!  ;)

 

Offline SnakeEyes

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Re: Singh's Background Emporium
One of the things that surprised me is that the TGA nebula backgrounds in media SCP are not actually upgraded versions of the original  FS2 ones.  That brings very incoherent backgrounds in FS2 main campaign.

Said that I think I preffer these  which are included in Derelict and also have PCX versions aswell. That is for me to be able to see them in FRED. Is there any command line variable that allows to view TGA  backgrounds in FRED?  :confused:

I donĀ“t  suppose anyone is ever gone and redone the backgrounds in FS2 main campaign for SCP is there?
I feel like an exile......

 

Offline diceman111

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Re: Singh's Background Emporium
Does anybody get "Page not found" when trying to download the Nebula.exe file????

Could just be my browser since my computer is currently FUBAR.

(Sometimes I hate Windows XP, wish Vist would come soon)

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Offline Wanderer

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Re: Singh's Background Emporium
You could try this set
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Offline diceman111

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Re: Singh's Background Emporium
Thank you very much, this will make my missions look much better
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