[asyikarea51]

I played around with the names in the POF and managed to fix that red light issue. Whether it works or not, I don't know (it does on my computer), but I can upload it if anyone's interested.

IIRC I only fixed the original though.

[Commander Zane]

Yes, please. It gets agrivating after a while not seeing one side of the ship unlit.

[asyikarea51]

Grrr, FileFront is really acting up today.

And I think I have a fixed Mk2 version somewhere... I just don't feel like extracting it out and recompiling my VP's right now.

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Just chuck it into your Port folder - the TBM's already in there. I didn't really bother about what was inside the TBM though... just that +nocreate and a bunch of entries for trails.

[Zacam]

Also, more of a consistancy nit pick than anything else.....
Every other model in the game has the red lights on the models left side (when facing the rear) and the green lights on the right.

The Athena lights in this model are reverse of that.

If the lights for the Athena are actually correct, (which I do not think they are, but not being a pilot, I have no idea) that is going to be of work, so should the ones on the Athena be switched to match the rest of the models?

[Commander Zane]

Even though I never decided to say anything about that, yes, the red lights are supposed to be on the left side, the green on the right. The tail light is also red (although I don't know why), and there's white lights under the nose.

[Turey]

Red lights on left, Green lights on right.

[Herra Tohtori]

Actually, presuming that current aerial light marking conventions still apply in FS1&2 era, the lights should be as follows:

-green static lights on starboard side (right when looking forwards), red static lights on port side (left when facing forwards) as already explained

-bright (or yellow) strobos aka blinking lights on centerline (nose, tail, upside and downside)

And of course landing lights, taxiing lights and... umm... nevermind that.

 


Although it should be noted that in Freespace, navigational lights do not really serve their purpose like they do on atmospheric flight or at sea, because crafts can roll so that there's no way of knowing the ship's attitude just by observing the lights.

[Zacam]

But still, all terran vessels (as a hold over) are still possessing of them in both FS1 and FS2, so they should all still be on the correct sides. And you can tell with the lights a ships attitude, that's another reason why they are present. Airplanes can roll too.

[Herra Tohtori]

But still, all terran vessels (as a hold over) are still possessing of them in both FS1 and FS2, so they should all still be on the correct sides.

Agreed.

And you can tell with the lights a ships attitude, that's another reason why they are present. Airplanes can roll too.

In fact, no. Airplanes can roll, yes, but they are still bound to be upright most of the time, unlike spacecraft.

In space, ships can be at any attitude with no limitations. So, let's assume that there's a ship which has two red lights on the left side and two green lights on the right side. You see two red lights horizontally in front of you. All else is dark and the ship is stationary. There's no way you can tell for sure from this information alone, which way the ship is sipposedly headed. IT could be heading left, if its upside happens to point at the same direction as yours; but it could also be pointing to your right side if it happens to be stationed inverted in relation to you.

Obviously, separately cycled front and rear strobos would provide sufficent additional information to completely define the ship's attitude by navigational lights.

[Zacam]

That's what the top and bottom lights would dictate to you in your above example. Most undercarriage lights would differ in type or orientation than the topside running lights.

Supposing the ship in your example was light-correct Athena, the tail strobe/amber tail light on the top would provide the final clue as to bearing and orientation.

[asyikarea51]

Wow...

I didn't think about the lights really. I only had the thought of getting the lights working so that it's not as visible a nitpick in-game, didn't really care about the lights themselves. I'm fine with the way I'm using them now. Light show Funny how sometimes I'm so overly picky, and other times I'm not...

It may have been TrashMan's mistake since all I did was a rename job to his POF. That, or maybe I inadvertently added my own lights to it or something and somehow screwed up the order...

(sorry TrashMan for accusing you.)

I'll take a look.

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[Zacam]

What is "k1_cRO_WoE_January_27th.wmv" ???

Does not look to be the actual file after all?

**EDIT: N/M, I reload the page and it finally sends the "Athena_HTL_CL.vp".

Thank you.

[asyikarea51]

Sure, no problem. Anything wrong, let me know.

[TrashMan]

That light problem still persists?????

I might have to look into this mistery.. TO THE MISTERY MACHINE!

[CaptJosh]

Or even the Mystery Machine.

[asyikarea51]

That light problem still persists?????

Well it'd be appreciated if Zacam or Commander Zane reply back to verify if the fixed POF works okay. My guess is they were among the downloaders.

[Commander Zane]

For which one, the normal Athena or the Mk II variant? The first one works but still not the second.

[asyikarea51]

The first one works

Alright, thanks.

I dunno, I'm just not in the mood to upload another file right now. In the car mood. Not to mention that it uses its own table and stuff, and with me playing with the SCP's offerings, I usually ditch it straightaway for my own table, or adapt it to fit.

(Plus I think mine is modified in other ways apart from the lights, which btw are probably still the reversed set - have to scour my folders for an original copy again.)

[asyikarea51]

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New file uploaded, but I haven't tested it yet. Any volunteers? I don't want to screw up my mediavps folder anymore for fear of breaking multi.

As usual, credits to TrashMan, not me. It's not in a VP this time though, being a non-canon craft.

EDIT: Damn, I shouldn't have suggested the mediavps for a directory. Deleting that part of the extended description now... (alas, I'm too late, one guest already downloaded the file. Crap... if that guest comes back here, I wanna apologise to him/her...)

[Zacam]

The one I grabbed worked perfectly well, though I as well simply extracted the contents out of the VP and put in the dir (renaming to bomber01.pof.)