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Title: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: karajorma on September 18, 2018, 02:31:01 pm
https://variety.com/2018/gaming/news/brian-fargo-wants-to-buy-back-interplay-1202944111/

Well, I don't know how much hope there would be of the 2nd half but this is a rather interesting proposition. Apparently one of the founders of Interplay who later left the company has stated that if Bard's Tale 4 does really well he'll attempt to buy back the remains of Interplay so that he can make games from the IP they've been hoarding like a moribund dragon.

Now while I don't know much about Bard's Tale 4, I remember putting hours into the first one so this has got me a little interested in the game. If you were already interested BT4 and you're a member of any other sites which are devoted to other Interplay games, it might be worth spreading the news.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: Nightmare on September 18, 2018, 02:49:46 pm
I don't see how this should lead to FS3, apart from Interplays hoarded IPs changing owner. :(
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: karajorma on September 18, 2018, 11:39:56 pm
It's a long shot. But less long than with Interplay owning the rights.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: Snarks on September 19, 2018, 04:54:32 am
If Bard's Tale 4 is something you want, by all means buy it. But I question whether or not FS3 being produced in such a manner would be satisfying at all.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: karajorma on September 19, 2018, 05:15:43 am
I could definitely live with a big budget TV War prequel or Silent Threat done right even if we already have those in the community. A spiritual successor rather than a conclusion to the series. :v: are pretty smart and would probably avoid trying to follow on from FS2.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: CT27 on September 19, 2018, 05:23:14 am
I'd rather have the story be continued rather than seeing something already done before.  In other words, I'd like a FS3.


Now an 'alternate history' FS (the Shivans never show up during the T-V War for example), that would be cool IMO.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: Trivial Psychic on September 19, 2018, 01:08:36 pm
How about a FS-themed FPS?  Fending off Vasudan boarding parties, invading Vasudan colonies, being part of the team that boards the Shivan transport... just a few ideas.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: Nightmare on September 19, 2018, 03:04:44 pm
Just that killing zods is like :pimp:
while killing Shivans is like :shaking:
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: jr2 on September 19, 2018, 09:09:44 pm
How about a FS-themed FPS?  Fending off Vasudan boarding parties, invading Vasudan colonies, being part of the team that boards the Shivan transport... just a few ideas.

This would be sweet.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: General Battuta on September 19, 2018, 11:19:07 pm
I could definitely live with a big budget TV War prequel or Silent Threat done right even if we already have those in the community. A spiritual successor rather than a conclusion to the series. :v: are pretty smart and would probably avoid trying to follow on from FS2.

A sequel to FS2 would be their chance to do a BSG, a prequel would be their chance to do a Blood & Chrome (with exactly the same chances of it being a good show). People always ask for prequels about the most boring parts of stories but there's a reason they're offscreen.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: Nightmare on September 20, 2018, 12:06:41 am
BSG + FS2 = Exile

This community is just too awesome.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: rubixcube on September 30, 2018, 08:40:40 pm
I could definitely live with a big budget TV War prequel or Silent Threat done right even if we already have those in the community. A spiritual successor rather than a conclusion to the series. :v: are pretty smart and would probably avoid trying to follow on from FS2.

A sequel to FS2 would be their chance to do a BSG, a prequel would be their chance to do a Blood & Chrome (with exactly the same chances of it being a good show). People always ask for prequels about the most boring parts of stories but there's a reason they're offscreen.

You think the TV war would be boring?
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: Nightmare on October 01, 2018, 05:45:18 am
Trench line warfare is a particular not exciting kind of warfare to soldiers. If you want to get a good impression of that, play Frontlines. It's an excellent campaign, but doing that for 14 years would be nobody's liking.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: Rhymes on October 01, 2018, 12:48:01 pm

You think the TV war would be boring?

Fourteen years of back-and-forth conflict that we know ultimately concludes with a great big non-ending because the Shivans show up and wreck everything? Yeah, that'd probably be pretty boring. 

Not to mention the tech base would be more limited than what we had in FS1, which would lead to way more boring engagements--no shields, weak point defenses, no beams, and if what we saw in early FS1 is any indication, the available spaceships would be garbage by FS2 standards.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: rubixcube on October 02, 2018, 12:03:17 am

You think the TV war would be boring?

Fourteen years of back-and-forth conflict that we know ultimately concludes with a great big non-ending because the Shivans show up and wreck everything? Yeah, that'd probably be pretty boring. 

Not to mention the tech base would be more limited than what we had in FS1, which would lead to way more boring engagements--no shields, weak point defenses, no beams, and if what we saw in early FS1 is any indication, the available spaceships would be garbage by FS2 standards.

I suppose that's true.

It could be chance to explore some interesting plot points though; the reasons for the war, the inner workings/politics of the GTA and PVE, some greater fleshing out of the GTI and HOL. Granted that's probably going to make for a fairly short campaign, perhaps not deserving of a full game.

The ASW might be a better choice for a prequel, I think if :v: or Revival were to do another FS game, that's what I'd want.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: karajorma on October 02, 2018, 12:12:09 am
Wing Commander ended with a big non-ending. I seem to remember that people enjoyed it. Just don't end the campaign with Operation Thresher.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: Snarks on October 02, 2018, 03:50:26 am
I think there is merit to a prequel game, but the mistake would be assuming the formula that works in Freespace will work there. Most settings can work, if you play to its strengths, but that means having the freedom to build mechanics and ideas from the ground up.

Just off the top of my head, a space RTS / grand strategy type game could probably work pretty well with the Terran-Vasudan setting. Instead of controlling a single fighter, you'd control entire fleets, sending out strikecraft wings to various missions or picking what kind of technology to research. Perhaps some personel management could also be implemented. There's plenty of behind the scene damage control action happening all the time in Freespace that we never get to see.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: General Battuta on October 02, 2018, 09:11:01 am
If they make another Freespace by some incredible miracle, it had damn well better be a first person linear scripted mission-based space shooter about humans and Vasudans fighting Shivans.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: karajorma on October 02, 2018, 09:58:14 am
Actually, I could see a Hostile Waters/Carrier Command style game working well. You'd have fleet command but could leap into any fighter and take direct control of it.

That way the fragility of TV eta fighters wouldn't be as big of a problem.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: Mongoose on October 02, 2018, 11:11:45 am
If they make another Freespace by some incredible miracle, it had damn well better be a first person linear scripted mission-based space shooter about humans and Vasudans fighting Shivans.
A-****ing-men.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: Luis Dias on October 02, 2018, 12:10:37 pm
If they make another Freespace by some incredible miracle, it had damn well better be a first person linear scripted mission-based space shooter about humans and Vasudans fighting Shivans.

and lose all that good will already written in the first half of the very name of the game? It's FREE! Come on! It will obviously be a FtP battle royale open world sandbox game filled with microtransactions! You won't be able to wait till the Shivans come again and ruin the whole thing for good!
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: karajorma on October 02, 2018, 10:57:35 pm
You'll have to buy the Shivans as DLC.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: X3N0-Life-Form on October 03, 2018, 12:51:45 am
You'll also be able to unlock new ships, weapons, components and cosmetics via lootboxes.
Title: Re: Buy Bard's Tale 4 - Get Freespace 3?
Post by: Lorric on October 03, 2018, 06:07:33 am
If they make another Freespace by some incredible miracle, it had damn well better be a first person linear scripted mission-based space shooter about humans and Vasudans fighting Shivans.
A-****ing-men.
Don't forget getting to fight Terrans and Vasudans too. Freespace would be considerably diminished without the battles against the NTF and the Hammer of Light.