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Archived Boards => The Archive => Halo for FreeSpace => Topic started by: lobisomem on March 30, 2008, 09:29:43 am
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Hi guys!
These days i was playing one of the campaings made for SCP, and there was one of that boarding marines teams. I remembered that, althought there are many parts of the storyline in the FS that talks about land combat between shivans, humans and vasudans, i have never found anything about playing like one of that comandoes, and start wondering how wonderfull would be to have missions using the ships of FSP to attack land objectives, make support for land troops and, finally, playing as land troop sometimes (even if it should be to take control of an enemy ship after a boarding).
There anyone have any idea if someone is doing something like this?
See ya.
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In TH-O-RY it may be possible. Terrain is no problem as already demonstrated, manny ground combat however would probably involve lotsa modelling, scripting and such even to animate legs walking. Also, you'd need to make some kind of... I dunno to animate the gun.
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I think he means making a mod for Halo, rather than altering the FS2 engine.
right?
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Oh duh. True.
Well then, it's quite obviously much less of a problem, modeling part still exists though.
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shouldn't this be in gaming discussion?
If we're talking about a mod for Halo rather then for Freespace.
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Sounds like a very good idea. but it will take a pro modeler. and even so... what halo version were you planning on modding? since we can all agree vista is crap, that rules out halo2... so... i dunno
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I have a buddy that mods Halo constantly, and I mean for a living. I can drag his ass in here?
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shouldn't this be in gaming discussion?
If we're talking about a mod for Halo rather then for Freespace.
Oh... that´s a point.. sorry for starting this post here... :( :(
But, yes i was really thinking more in a mod for halo using freespace background, and why not, using freespace machinery in a planetary contest.
I put this topic here because i wondered that, if someone have already tried this it could be in this area...
Thanks to all!
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Don't worry. An admin can always move it.
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Wait a minute, what the hell? I never posted that. :wtf:
Oh for ****'s sake, it's an April Fools prank.
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Hellz yeah!
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lol yeah. that explains many things. everyones post and names seems to of been mixed around
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I have a buddy that mods Halo constantly, and I mean for a living. I can drag his ass in here?
Thats a start...
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Except he frowns upon the model making here on HLP. I showed him Turambar's x-wing and he said it sucked ass.
He still said that even after i mentioned that starfighters didn't have to be so detailed.
He was all ranting about **** like bump-maps and stuff :doubt:
was Turambar's x-wing a bad example of the average model?
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Seems like a typical case of Crysis-spoiled graphics whore to me.
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Except he frowns upon the model making here on HLP. I showed him Turambar's x-wing and he said it sucked ass.
He still said that even after i mentioned that starfighters didn't have to be so detailed.
He was all ranting about **** like bump-maps and stuff :doubt:
was Turambar's x-wing a bad example of the average model?
WTF? ask him to do a better job then! lets see what '****' he can come up with
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HALO takes .3ds files, so ..........................
:yes:
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Seems like a typical case of Crysis-spoiled graphics whore to me.
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(http://jeffmilner.com/2005/12/f117_via_richard-seaman.com.jpg)
This model sucks too. I mean, it's ridiculously low-poly and there's hardly any bump mapping, never mind other shaders to make the surface shiny. Who ever made this model deserves to be shot, it is completely unrealistic and jagged, full of big polygons that are clearly visible. No smoothing either. And what's up with flat lighting, it's not shiny at all... :ick: :hopping:
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Needs a shiny shinemap. :D
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Seems like a typical case of Crysis-spoiled graphics whore to me.
Well... if he can make a good shivan model for one person shooter combat in a halo mod he can say whatever he want.
But, without doing so, i still being fanatically devoted to HLP models! :)
See ya!
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Well... if he can make a good shivan model for one person shooter combat in a halo mod he can say whatever he want.
IMO no, he can't. Even if he is a good modeller he has absolutely no excuse to go bashing other people's work.
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Well... if he can make a good shivan model for one person shooter combat in a halo mod he can say whatever he want.
IMO no, he can't. Even if he is a good modeller he has absolutely no excuse to go bashing other people's work.
I agree.
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Well... if he can make a good shivan model for one person shooter combat in a halo mod he can say whatever he want.
IMO no, he can't. Even if he is a good modeller he has absolutely no excuse to go bashing other people's work.
I agree.
Ok... i haven´t seen the thing by this point... i f i had realised that he was messing with other works i wouldn´t have said that.
You 2 have the reason.
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So is this project going to happen...?
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Nope. Not unless Devrous has had another catastrophic hard drive failure.
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Why would you like to use the Halo engine? This engine is like 6 years old...
I think the Crysis engine would be the better choice... :nervous:
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uh.. ok.... you go ahead and get started...
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well... i really don´t know crisis...
To tell you the truth i have pour understanding in programming stuff...
I suggested Hallo just because this is one system that at least one of you good programmers understand well.
However, as a player, i believe that there a lot of first person shooter platforms that could be used... including swat tatics, halo, medal of honour, battlefield... each one have a diferent point of view... swat could give us a good tatical movement for ship invasion, battlefield an idea about ground combat with air support...
see ya.
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Why would you like to use the Halo engine? This engine is like 6 years old...
I think the Crysis engine would be the better choice... :nervous:
maybe because most computers can't run crysis
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Anyone will expect a Crysis TC to have astonishing GFX.
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well... i really don´t know crisis...
To tell you the truth i have pour understanding in programming stuff...
I suggested Hallo just because this is one system that at least one of you good programmers understand well.
However, as a player, i believe that there a lot of first person shooter platforms that could be used... including swat tatics, halo, medal of honour, battlefield... each one have a diferent point of view... swat could give us a good tatical movement for ship invasion, battlefield an idea about ground combat with air support...
see ya.
dont give me that... i think halo will be one of the best engines to build it on. you were probably right to begin with... unless we use an older engine such as quake 3.
I think it is also fair to say that halo is built on an engine which is more open, so it will be a lot easyer to mod.
as for crisis, it is based on dat files ect and therefore you will need to be a programmer to mod.
so like i said, if you want it to be built on the crisis engine, dave2040, we are going to leave it to you, cause i am sorry to say, noone else is as intelligent as you. :hopping:
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well... i really don´t know crisis...
To tell you the truth i have pour understanding in programming stuff...
I suggested Hallo just because this is one system that at least one of you good programmers understand well.
However, as a player, i believe that there a lot of first person shooter platforms that could be used... including swat tatics, halo, medal of honour, battlefield... each one have a diferent point of view... swat could give us a good tatical movement for ship invasion, battlefield an idea about ground combat with air support...
see ya.
dont give me that... i think halo will be one of the best engines to build it on. you were probably right to begin with... unless we use an older engine such as quake 3.
I think it is also fair to say that halo is built on an engine which is more open, so it will be a lot easyer to mod.
as for crisis, it is based on dat files ect and therefore you will need to be a programmer to mod.
so like i said, if you want it to be built on the crisis engine, dave2040, we are going to leave it to you, cause i am sorry to say, noone else is as intelligent as you. :hopping:
has the halo source been released though
cause I know Crysis's has
it comes with modpack
although i have no clue what any of the code means ( i wish i did though)
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and you are absolutly sure that the modpack was not made by the creators of the game?
and as for the code... this only pushes my last statement
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and you are absolutly sure that the modpack was not made by the creators of the game?
and as for the code... this only pushes my last statement
yeah the code comes in the official SDK
at least i think its all of the code
i really have no way to tell though
its in a folder called CryEngine which contains 3.08 mb of c++ source and header files
interestingly enough, vehicles and weapons are configured through files similar to volitions .tbl
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But I think the programming in the .tbl files is compleatly diffrent to that of freespace.
.tbl is just a file extention. it is the same as a .txt
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But I think the programming in the .tbl files is compleatly diffrent to that of freespace.
.tbl is just a file extention. it is the same as a .txt
You're completly right.
I shoudl explain. The crysis vehicle stats/date/whatever 9at least for mods) is stored in .xml files that are not implemented in the same way as the .tbl and do contain xml code.
I jujst mean t that it was a file devoted only to the vehicle statistics and was easily editable.
if someone wanted to do a crysis mod, they could probably get some good advice from crymod.
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maybe... but i still recon noone here would know where to start
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Hey there, sorry for the bump, but you can count on me as a modder. For the map we will need Halo Custom Edition. Its the only version of Halo that can be stuffed with this type of content. But for the modelling , umm...lets just say Im not into modelling/animating.
Give me some ideas and I can show you what I mean.
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uh... ok... well since devrous was in charge of the project, and we have no idea what happened with all legal issues blah blah blah, Im not even sure if we can start. but you seem to be as excited as i am.
Lets wait until we hear back from devrous. if the board gets archived a bunch of us should start halo freespace as a new project.
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Umm...well, is anyone going to take responsibility of starting the 'Halo FS2' project?
Cuz Im pretty sure the FS2-Halo project is dead.
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I would... but:
1. i know very little about FS modding
2. i am a very **** moddler
3. noone has even a sample of devrous' work
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since this board is now archived, does anyone want to start on halo freespace as a new project.
didnt you say your friend could help, haloboy?
and supersonic seems to be reliable.
I have no idea where to begin, but i learn very quickly, so if anyone wants to teach me about halo modding...
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Just so i'm clear <i've forgotten the aim of this proposal> are you porting Halo to FreeSpace or vice versa?
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didnt you say your friend could help, haloboy?
He won't. He generally looks down up on the HLP community after showing him the rather beautiful looking Star Wars models. He seemed really unimpressed.
Devrous did say I could Beta test, though. I'm able to do that if we're going to revive this project ourselves, as I have both Halo Custom Edition and FSO.
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He won't. He generally looks down up on the HLP community after showing him the rather beautiful looking Star Wars models. He seemed really unimpressed.
So can he do better?
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Seeing as he's been modding and moddeling since he was 5, maybe he could.
Generally speaking, Asians tend to be very conscientious.
Then again he's only my age.
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I wouldn't let my son near a computer until he's at least ten. Modelling since five?? That's just terrible.
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I wouldn't let my son near a computer until he's at least ten
:eek2:
Are you serious?
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I have a picture of me on the computer at two.
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ok... so we are back to square 1... but still... id be willing to give it a shot...
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Wow Haloboy100, since most of the models released or shown are from like 4-5 YEARS ago that's a lot of balls.
Add the fact that an optimized model with the right textures can look identical to a 100k model but for GAMING it doesn't matter. These are game oriented meshes, not meant to be art like at scifimeshes.com
IF he can do better in game then he's welcome to try. (oh and for the record the highest successful model in FS2 AFAIK was in the 60k-69k-ish range, PEGASUS) that is by no means the limit.
And great way you pay attention, Normal and Bump mapping are being added to the new ones so...........
(Read some threads) :eek:
Another case of armchair modding. Someone with a bad attitude only sees what they want to see and looks down on other things and it clouds their perceptions.
We certainly don't want those kind of trolls in any of our gaming sites...
I got sucked into this thread cause I thought it was Devrous's. This thread should be moved to General Gaming...
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*snip*
Yah. I hate him too. ;)
I did show him the new Y-wing model in the works. He thought it was fine. But in all things said, I forgot to leave out that this guy is a total douche :doubt:
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The question is, can he do better? And why's he your friend?
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He isn't :ick:
Not anymore, anyway. I didn't bother mentioning cause it shouldn't matter.
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I wouldn't let my son near a computer until he's at least ten. Modelling since five?? That's just terrible.
Eh? I used computers before I even got into school(at 3 years) and thats how I learnt English. And that gave me a promotion in school too.
And for the guys unwary about this, this is a port of FS to Halo. Does anyone other than me and haloboy even have HCE? To start modding you need something more than just HCE. Anyone insterested at this can PM me.
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Wow Haloboy100, since most of the models released or shown are from like 4-5 YEARS ago that's a lot of balls.
Add the fact that an optimized model with the right textures can look identical to a 100k model but for GAMING it doesn't matter. These are game oriented meshes, not meant to be art like at scifimeshes.com
IF he can do better in game then he's welcome to try. (oh and for the record the highest successful model in FS2 AFAIK was in the 60k-69k-ish range, PEGASUS) that is by no means the limit.
And great way you pay attention, Normal and Bump mapping are being added to the new ones so...........
(Read some threads) :eek:
Another case of armchair modding. Someone with a bad attitude only sees what they want to see and looks down on other things and it clouds their perceptions.
We certainly don't want those kind of trolls in any of our gaming sites...
I got sucked into this thread cause I thought it was Devrous's. This thread should be moved to General Gaming...
Keep in mind:
A) Exaggeration is very easy on the internet.
B) Incompetent people tend to not know just how incompetent they are.
C) He's 14. Lying about one's ability is very easy at that age.
D) Modding since age 5 is no indication of being an excellent modder.
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I was serious about the modding since 5 bit, and I'm just telling you what he said.
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I was serious about the modding since 5 bit, and I'm just telling you what he said.
Whew. It's okay everyone, it was all a lie.
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Probably. Knowing what a kiss-ass he is and how much he likes to brag.
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Mmm..hmmm? Aren't we all going off-topic?
About the Halo mod, all I have to say is that this isnt going anywhere without models. I could do the remaining part, but that would be like FS2 with no ships, only infantry.
HEY WAIT A MINUTE! Is this supposed to be a ship-to-ship battle in space or a land-based fight?
And also, I don't think that the mod can have different models for different species.
Unless, this is not multiplayer but a single-player map.
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It's most likely going to be singleplayer first, so making ships for other species is possible. It will be space combat, of course. If we wanted a ground-based Freespace, we would of modded a modern FPS instead of Freespace.
and for the last time, this is Freespace, not Halo. Missions are called "Missions", not "maps" ;)
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So thats it then... The project is virtually dead?
Are we all willing to let this project die
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Not all of us. Just Devrous.
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Well, if anyone wants to continue this...maybe we should contact Devrous and get the stuff he made.
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Referring to some dude's PM to me, I want to say that I cant lead this project. My Broadband is trying to kill me.
Also,
and for the last time, this is Freespace, not Halo. Missions are called "Missions", not "maps"
My bad :p...
Also, for this mod(THIS IS FOR HALO DAMMIT) I think I can request some models from a fellow Halo modder/modeller. Hes great at modelling but Im not sure if he'll be able to make exact FS2 ship models.
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It's most likely going to be singleplayer first, so making ships for other species is possible. It will be space combat, of course. If we wanted a ground-based Freespace, we would of modded a modern FPS instead of Freespace.
Always wondered what ground combat in FS was like. Its like all the glory goes to the flyboys.
] I can request some models from a fellow Halo modder/modeller. Hes great at modelling but Im not sure if he'll be able to make exact FS2 ship models.
Models can be converted, although his heirachy and stuff has to be correct.
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It's most likely going to be singleplayer first, so making ships for other species is possible. It will be space combat, of course. If we wanted a ground-based Freespace, we would of modded a modern FPS instead of Freespace.
Always wondered what ground combat in FS was like. Its like all the glory goes to the flyboys.
Ground Combat?
Some Vasudans get in a bunker, then the Lucifer nails it with a Super Laser from high orbit. That's FS ground combat.
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See Hallfight.
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OK, the friend I was talking about, he has agreed to modelling, I still have to show him what Freespace is all about, but after that, its finalized.
Models can be converted, although his heirachy and stuff has to be correct.
Im not too sure about that..
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Looks like SuperSonic's the new head.
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Hey I'm the modeler Supersonic was refering to.
Models can be converted, although his heirachy and stuff has to be correct.
Well Supersonic was talking about making a mod of FS2 for halo (I don't know if its for the regular halo or the Custom Edition) so we don't need to keep the hierarchy, as halo only needs 1 model (consisting of several objects for animation purposes) which are the linked to nodes for exporting to halo and animation.
But at the moment I have no idea what anything in the game looks like so I'm going to have to play the game first (boy am I glad I cleaned up my hard drive a couple of days ago :P)
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Umm Storm keeper,
Referring to some dude's PM to me, I want to say that I cant lead this project. My Broadband is trying to kill me.
Hey Mart, good to have ya here! I didnt read the first line at first so didnt recognize you.
I don't know if its for the regular halo or the Custom Edition
Are you playing dumb?
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*shrug*
Was just a passing remark. But I can see you're really passionate about making this thing work. :yes:
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*shrug*
Was just a passing remark. But I can see you're really passionate about making this thing work. :yes:
Either way we are currently going nowhere...
If anyone is actually serious about porting freespace to halo... ill be happy to listen...
in the meantime, i suggest we just wait for devious to come back with near no more work done on halo port freespace since last time he was here.
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Ive heard about stuff like these, ports to some other game, "woohoo" mods, "fanboy" mods and most of the time they just die down.
(For example,Mart, remember CMT SPv2?)
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You mean halo to freespace.
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Quick clarification:
Porting Halo to Freespace = Taking stuff from the Halo game and putting it into the SCP engine. The game wouldn't have anything to do with the Freespace universe; it would only share the game engine. You would have the Covenants and all that stuff; no Zods.
Porting Freespace to Halo = Taking stuff from Freespace and putting it into the Halo engine. This means that you are a little marine running around killing Zods and getting slaughtered by Shivans. The game only shares Halo's engine, nothing else with the Halo series.
It seems as though people keep confusing these two. Don't anymore.
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(For example,Mart, remember CMT SPv2?)
Uhh SPv2 is still being worked on atm.
Also SuperSonic dragged me into this and he hasnt even got a design doc, sonic what are you trying to do with the FS2 to Halo Convertion? I'm getting confused now.
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This still going? I'm glad :nod:
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Keep us updated! :D
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Quick clarification:
Porting Halo to Freespace = Taking stuff from the Halo game and putting it into the SCP engine. The game wouldn't have anything to do with the Freespace universe; it would only share the game engine. You would have the Covenants and all that stuff; no Zods.
Porting Freespace to Halo = Taking stuff from Freespace and putting it into the Halo engine. This means that you are a little marine running around killing Zods and getting slaughtered by Shivans. The game only shares Halo's engine, nothing else with the Halo series.
It seems as though people keep confusing these two. Don't anymore.
Hi guys!
Sorry for don´t giving any ideas for so long. I´m in the middle of some tests, but i´m glad to see that this thread have gone so far. When i first posted this thread i was really thinking if someone have ever had the idea of making a freespace to halo porting, after that i learned that the oposite was being done by someone. I like one person shooters, and i love the freespace universe, that was why i figured about giving the idea.
I can´t try to learn how to mod or model nowadays, however, if anyone want a tester... freespace is ever a good mind releaser after soem hours os study.
See ya, and good job.
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Nothings come from this though has it.
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Absolutely. We don't have someone who has the time to model, let alone people who want to model, no one who knows how to work on maps, obviously no voice actors or textures’, and no clue as to what is happening to FreeSpace Halo, let alone Halo FreeSpace. All we have are testers, and that brings us... nowhere.
Give it up; the project is dead until devrous gets back.
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But is halo that moddable anyway? Wouldn't it be a better choice just to
pirate buy an Unity copy?
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It's not too moddable but it's possible to make stuff like this.
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There you go 2400+ entries to search... Use sketchup pro or the blender plugin.
That should cover most of the models... Ask for permission.
http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/search?q=Halo&btnG=Search&styp=m&reps=2
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Well thats a start... First I think we should form a team of members
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Actually you need something more important than that.
You need a team LEADER. Someone who is totally focused on the project at hand.
If you're not willing to put years into it, then don't apply.
Once you have your "Rock" to keep on people and organize things you need a story, or you work on teh models you think will be in the story: A writer and modelers/texturers.
Voice actors are the LAST thing you need, it's audio candy for an almost finished mod.
Then if you decided you want special features not in the newest build, then you need coders.
You get the point. Anyway, without at least ONE indivudual to keep things grounded mods tend to fly apart, thigns get lost or overlooked, and no one can say exactly what's going on.
A team leader should have a back up and a third, they should have equal access to the latest files, should the worst happen...
Good luck with your effort!
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Shotty not!!!
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Wut?
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All due respect to the intentions of the mod. But shouldn't it be based in a Halo mod forum where people have experience with the engine? Or try another FPS with fighters. Like red faction or the battlefield series :)
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Why won't this stay dead? Everyone wants to play, nobody wants to work.
Until and unless anyone comes up with a fully modeled Vasudan and a fully modeled Terran Marine, there will be no Freespace FPS.
Until and unless anyone comes up with POFs for the Marine Pelican and Covenant Banshee, there will be no Halo mod.
Until and unless those happen, I recommend we bury this forum.
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Why won't this stay dead? Everyone wants to play, nobody wants to work.
Until and unless anyone comes up with a fully modeled Vasudan and a fully modeled Terran Marine, there will be no Freespace FPS.
Until and unless anyone comes up with POFs for the Marine Pelican and Covenant Banshee, there will be no Halo mod.
Until and unless those happen, I recommend we bury this forum.
Agreed.
I think I'll let this thread go until the weekend, then disable (i.e. make invisible and inaccessible) the board.
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Why won't this stay dead? Everyone wants to play, nobody wants to work.
Exactly my point. Noone is willing to do anything, and anyone who wants to lacks the knowledge to do so.
Until and unless anyone comes up with a fully modeled Vasudan and a fully modeled Terran Marine, there will be no Freespace FPS.
Which noone has done yet.
Until and unless anyone comes up with POFs for the Marine Pelican and Covenant Banshee, there will be no Halo mod.
Which Devrous has and left noone. one of the disadvantages of being a 1 man team.
Do you all suppose his email about his computer dieing was bull****, cause it's been far too long in my oppinion.
Until and unless those happen, I recommend we bury this forum.
Everyone happy, cause if you look 3 pages back, I was saying to **** it all and wait till Devrous gets back should he decide to do so.
You know, "I told you so" just doesnt quite say it.
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Do you all suppose his email about his computer dieing was bull****, cause it's been far too long in my oppinion.
It does seem rather strange. If it was a matter of his computer being well and truly fried, and him not having the money to replace it, you'd think he could at least manage to stop by a friend's house or a public library and give the occasional status update. Hell, even Burger Kings have free workstations these days. I know that I start suffering withdrawal if I'm offline for just a few days...several months would kill me. :p
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I rest my case. *bows*
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/me can't find the lock button..
oh yeah, no jurisdiction :rolleyes: