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Title: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: terran_emperor on October 28, 2010, 02:21:35 pm
Feel free to post any you have spotted

Okay here we go (and I appologize for resorting to TV Tropes terms where I have.)

1) Halo
I've said it before and I'll maintain it.

I see shades of Halo ship to ship warfare in the Fleet tactics.
Basically, the UEF's tactics of wiping out enemy capitals with Rail-guns and Macross Missile Massacres is what UNSC ships do.
Whilst the GTVA seem to prefer death by Beam Spam like the Covenant do.

This is based on the description of Cap-ship warefare as described in the Halo Novels and what little we see in the games

2) Hinduism
The whole council of three thing...whith the non Zod aliens. Do I really have to go into this?

3) Dune
The Fedayeen just sceamed Feydakin (The Elite Fremen Guard of Mau'dib)...Then I found out that that group was based on Real Life Fedayeen.

Also the whole Ngari (Sp?) thing makes me think of the effect the spice has and the Kwisatz Haderach
Hmmm Samuel Bei could be equated to Paul Atreides while Noemi could be the counterpart to Feyd-Rautha Harkonen or Leto Atriedes II...Um it gets a bit complicated...

(I'll clarify the above bit as soon as I can work out how to)

4) Real Life Ubuntu
I may be wrong but is Ubuntu in Universe the same/based on the real life concept?

Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: -Norbert- on October 28, 2010, 02:57:27 pm
The covenant isn't really about beamspam. Their main weapon are plasma torpedoes and only their most elite ships use beams, at least in the four Halo books I have read.

I really don't remember anyone in Dune communicating with "higher" beings. And that's what the Nagari factor is really about - the ability to communicate with Vishnans and/or Shivans... maybe also among each other, but I havn't ready anything to that effect.

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4) Real Life Ubuntu
I may be wrong but is Ubuntu in Universe the same/based on the real life concept?
Not the same but based around the same basic principals, if I got the team's comments right.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: OllieG on October 28, 2010, 04:58:08 pm
Some of the psychological aspects of the plot are definitely influenced by "On Killing," a non-fiction book about the psychology of killing in war.

The Martian military owes a lot to the culture of pilots in the 2004 Battlestar Galactica series, especially the episode "Scar" (about a attempt to hunt down a particularly deadly enemy pilot). 

Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Buckshee Rounds on October 28, 2010, 06:24:18 pm
Silly question but does Blue Planet have any members also working on Diaspora?
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: General Battuta on October 28, 2010, 06:26:12 pm
Nobody involved in R1 was also working on Diaspora except Nighteyes, who did some visual effects.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Darius on October 28, 2010, 06:31:32 pm
Some of the explosion effects were Dabrain's from BtRL.

Dune was a definite influence for some parts of AoA.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: General Battuta on October 28, 2010, 06:33:37 pm
Some of the explosion effects were Dabrain's from BtRL.

Dune was a definite influence for some parts of AoA.

And War in Heaven. We <3 Dune.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Buckshee Rounds on October 28, 2010, 06:36:16 pm
You must definitely have BSG fans though, I've seen WiH being compared to it numerous times now.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: -Norbert- on October 28, 2010, 06:49:18 pm
There is of course the "fleet all alone on the way home" story that AoA has in common with BSG.... but then the greeks did it long before BSG with the saga of Odysseus, only that it wasn't a whole fleet there.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: General Battuta on October 28, 2010, 06:54:43 pm
There is of course the "fleet all alone on the way home" story that AoA has in common with BSG.... but then the greeks did it long before BSG with the saga of Odysseus, only that it wasn't a whole fleet there.
BSG spoiler:

Spoiler:
Ironically the AoA fleet got to Earth to find it in ruins well before the BSG one did!
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: -Norbert- on October 28, 2010, 07:37:02 pm
The re-envisioned one maybe, but there was another BSG series decades before, allthough they didn't find Earth in ruins.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: General Battuta on October 28, 2010, 07:43:47 pm
The re-envisioned one maybe, but there was another BSG series decatdes before, allthough they didn't find Earth in ruins.

Please. New BSG is so much better than the one with Lorne Greene.  ;7
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: SomeGuyWithAName on October 28, 2010, 09:46:41 pm
Considering that I really disliked the new BSG (I can't even say why, something about the overall style and the actors... dunno), I'm glad it could help shape something as awesome as this.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Herra Tohtori on October 29, 2010, 02:33:33 am
The re-envisioned one maybe, but there was another BSG series decatdes before, allthough they didn't find Earth in ruins.


They certainly never found Earth filled with hover bikes.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: -Norbert- on October 29, 2010, 06:58:42 am
Please. New BSG is so much better than the one with Lorne Greene.  ;7
Wether you like it more or less than the new BSG series, doesn't change the fact that it exists.... and did so even long before there ever was Descent 1, much less an FS2 mod called Blue Planet.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: terran_emperor on October 29, 2010, 08:00:52 am
Can we avoid turing this into a "Which Galactica was better?" Discussion. Personally I like them both (Galactica 1980 notwithstanding). Comparing them is like comparing the Adam West Batman series and the modern films (Ignoring Batman & Robin) - Essentially the same but completly different.

I also found a way to rationalize Galactica 1980 - Its an in universe story written by Boxey - hense how wierd it is.

But that's getting off topic

Yes I noticed the nBSG's influence when it got brought up...Hmmm Ngari and "The Music"...or the Vishnans with Head-Six/Head-Baltar/Other "Angels"...

The covenant isn't really about beamspam. Their main weapon are plasma torpedoes and only their most elite ships use beams, at least in the four Halo books I have read.

I really don't remember anyone in Dune communicating with "higher" beings. And that's what the Nagari factor is really about - the ability to communicate with Vishnans and/or Shivans... maybe also among each other, but I havn't ready anything to that effect.


I was being a bit liberal with the term "beam spam" - I was including laser turrets under that phase. The Point is that the UEF's preference for kinetic/ballistic weapons (missiles and Mass Drivers (And please Don't bring the Maxim into this (I know and have made the Arguement myself)) and the GTVA's preference for energy weapons, not to mention the general tactics of each side, of how the UNSC and Covenant opperate.

Besides In the games - Word of god is that Game-canon takes presidence over book canon - the covenant ships love beside

As for dune
Think on it this way: Paul Atreides and Feyd-Rautha were both considered viable candidates for the Kwisatz Haderach (KH)*. Pual seems to be the more peaceable one, who will do what needs to be done and killed because he had to. Whilst Feyd was the more psychotic one and killed because he enjoyed doing it. Compare these enturpretations to the characterizations of Sam Bei and Noemi Laporte and maybe you'll see where I'm coming from.

*The Bene Gesserit plan was for Paul to have been female and then wed to Feyd and their child would have been the KH. But anyone who has read the book/seen the film knows what happened instead.

-fixed-
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: X3N0-Life-Form on October 29, 2010, 11:37:04 am
*The Bene Gesserit plan was for Paul to have been female and then wed to Feyd and their child would have been the KH. But we all know what happened instead.
For those who have read Dune, ofc.
(I did)
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: -Sara- on October 29, 2010, 01:37:49 pm
More interesting I always found Freespace itself to be based a lot on "Space 2063" also known as "Space Above and Beyond". The way Vasudans look like the antagonist 'chigs' and don armour, their religious background and zealot-like behaviour shown when humans stomp on holy ground, the ship design (the triangular anubus, carapaces and scales on vessels). Not to mention the whole narrowly surviving and striking back theme.

A funny note to me is that the Uhlan looks a lot like the 'Hammerhead fighter' from that particular series, which gave me a chuckle as the manufacturer of the Uhlan is apparantly 'Saab Spaceframes', where Saab (besides a swedish car manufacturer) is the common abbreviation for Space Above and Beyond.

(http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/images/Uefuhlan.jpg) (http://spaceaboveandbeyond.tv/graphics/3view/hh-per.gif)
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: General Battuta on October 29, 2010, 01:41:01 pm
Whoa. That's quite a set of coincidences.  :eek2:

Saab does make fighter jets even today, though.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Scourge of Ages on October 29, 2010, 02:39:27 pm
Good call on the Hammerhead reference, Sara. I noticed the same similarity in ship design.
It's been way too long since I saw the show and I almost completely forgot everything about the Chigs to make the other connections (except that water kills them, and you fly their ships by sticking your arms in holes, like giant cows).
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Herra Tohtori on October 29, 2010, 02:41:53 pm
Saab AB is a defence contractor company.

Saab Automobile AB is (besides a source for a cool recursive acronym) the automobile manufacturer.

Saab by itself means Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget, so...

The aerospace&defense contractor is called Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget Aktiebolaget, while the automobile manufacturer ir Svenska Aeroplan Aktiebolaget Automobile Aktiebolaget.

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Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: -Sara- on October 29, 2010, 03:30:16 pm
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..and contingencies.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Talon 1024 on October 29, 2010, 06:58:59 pm
The UEF Uhlan and UEF Uriel look a lot like the Coalition Saber from Starlancer.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h4/Millennium_Falsehood/Starlancer%20Ships/Sabre.jpg)

The UEF Kentauroi also looks a lot like the fighter shown on the front of the SL Box/CD case
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y155/Wargibbon/Starlancer.jpg)

Even the cockpits seem to be largely inspired by Starlancer.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: General Battuta on October 29, 2010, 07:19:44 pm
Yeah, I think Steve-O was definitely riffing.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: FreeSpaceFreak on October 30, 2010, 02:18:57 am
And there's the Karuna, which has some stylistic elements from Babylon 5 ships, like this one (http://www.b5tech.com/oldb5tech/earthalliance/earthallianceshipsandvessels/earthcapships/novax/novax.html) - note the shape of the front section, the number of antennas and the rotating thing.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: terran_emperor on October 30, 2010, 07:39:06 am
Actually, the Karuna looks like the child of an Oracle Cruiser and an Omega

The Oracle (See Below) is a canon ship from the Cancelled B5Wars game
(http://spaceship.brainiac.com/Mongoose/Oracle.jpeg)

Basically remove the Oracle's Bridge tower and the fin on underside, add the Omega's rotating fin  near the back and the result is essentially the karuna
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Black Wolf on October 30, 2010, 07:56:33 am
It's been way too long since I saw the show and I almost completely forgot everything about the Chigs to make the other connections (except that water kills them, and you fly their ships by sticking your arms in holes, like giant cows).

:wtf:
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Pred the Penguin on October 30, 2010, 09:18:13 am
Cows have holes in them!!
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: -Norbert- on October 30, 2010, 12:40:26 pm
Actually that Oracle reminds me a lot of the Chellenger from Wings of Dawn.... or probably the other way round.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Scourge of Ages on October 30, 2010, 02:16:10 pm
:wtf:
It's true! If you'd seen it, you'd know. And you'd never forget it.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Dragon on October 30, 2010, 02:26:09 pm
Challengers in WoD are actually based on Federaion ships from Xenosaga.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Buckshee Rounds on October 31, 2010, 04:05:29 am
There's a comparison shot on google somewhere of the Omega and Karuna:

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5564/screen0189.png)

The Narayana's two guns with curved hull reminds me of something but I can't for the life of me think what it is.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: General Battuta on October 31, 2010, 11:26:21 am
I think the Karuna was riffing more off of Nexus ships than anything else.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: SpardaSon21 on October 31, 2010, 12:44:35 pm
I suppose it might be a Noah vessel with a rotating section, although Noah vessels tend to be a bit thicker than the Karuna and Narayana.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: General Battuta on October 31, 2010, 01:00:15 pm
I was actually thinking of the Stiletto and Longsword. They're kind of similar to the Karuna/Narayana pair in some respects, actually.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: -Norbert- on October 31, 2010, 01:13:01 pm
True for the rotating sections (especially the tripple of the Narayana and Longsword), but the "nose" of the Karuna is very symbolic for the Babylon 5 Omega (and Nova, which was the Omegas predecessor - but without a rotating section).
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: -Sara- on October 31, 2010, 02:03:57 pm
:wtf:
It's true! If you'd seen it, you'd know. And you'd never forget it.

I think Black Wolf more so wonders why you put your hands into the holes of a cow.  :D
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Hades on October 31, 2010, 02:11:58 pm
I was actually thinking of the Stiletto and Longsword. They're kind of similar to the Karuna/Narayana pair in some respects, actually.
...No they aren't, the Longsword is just a Stiletto with some compartments and the rotating section removed, while the Karuna and Narayana aren't visually from the same basic hull design.

Not to mention the Karuna looks waaay more like the Omega than it does the Stiletto (which the only thing they have in common is a very different rotating section)
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: SpardaSon21 on October 31, 2010, 02:35:53 pm
The Stiletto is far flatter than the Karuna, and nowhere near as long.
(http://screenshot.xfire.com/s/36636643-3.jpg)
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: General Battuta on October 31, 2010, 02:36:43 pm
fine  :( :( :(
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: SpardaSon21 on October 31, 2010, 02:59:45 pm
Don't cry so much.  The Sanctus reminds me of a shorter and wider Stiletto without the rotating section.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: X3N0-Life-Form on October 31, 2010, 03:36:33 pm
Actually, if I have to compare it to a Nexus ship, the Sanctus reminds me more of the Noah destroyer.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: -Norbert- on October 31, 2010, 04:12:49 pm
True... I forgot about the smallfry  :P
But the Sanctus really does look a lot like those Noah destroyers (Brutus and Sparta say hi ;) ).
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Buckshee Rounds on November 03, 2010, 04:48:10 pm
Was Firefly a minor influence in the development of WiH? A small thing I've noticed is a Fed frigate called Serenity in the big battle scenario. Also Steele's first name is Chiwetel, the same as the actor Chiwetel Ejiofor who played the Operative.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: General Battuta on November 03, 2010, 04:52:43 pm
Was Firefly a minor influence in the development of WiH? A small thing I've noticed is a Fed frigate called Serenity in the big battle scenario. Also Steele's first name is Chiwetel, the same as the actor Chiwetel Ejiofor who played the Operative.

The Chiwetel thing is the biggest shoutout. The Serenity is just a tribute.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Buckshee Rounds on November 03, 2010, 05:27:37 pm
So Steele is a black swordsman with no rank and no name that can kill his enemies by incapacitating them with a nerve punch? And he's batman?!
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: General Battuta on November 03, 2010, 05:28:39 pm
I think...two of those traits are correct?
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Ravenholme on November 03, 2010, 06:56:36 pm
No one's mentioned the Banksian influences? I am disappointed.

But yes, a decent trend of Iain M Banks-style sci-fi (mostly the Culture) is clear in Blue Planet.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Useful Dave on November 08, 2010, 10:55:21 am
No one's mentioned the Banksian influences? I am disappointed.

But yes, a decent trend of Iain M Banks-style sci-fi (mostly the Culture) is clear in Blue Planet.

It just lacks the Minds and effectors? :P
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: bigchunk1 on November 08, 2010, 08:01:51 pm
I'm here to point out the obvious!
(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x380/Brandon_Rehayem/Southafricanattackheli.jpg)(http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x380/Brandon_Rehayem/gunship2.png)

Ya that's right... you see it too don't you? That's why the UEF Uriel is boss.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Buckshee Rounds on November 09, 2010, 04:08:32 am
Funny to think the real life Hellfire missile has better tracking than the UEF equivalent. Althugh not the nuclear tipped warhead. :)
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: -Norbert- on November 09, 2010, 06:55:40 am
Keep in mind that it's far easier to manouver in atmosphere. Down here you just need flaps on the missiles so they can steer. In space you need manouvering thrusters and/or vectored thrust.

Besides, the Hellfire doesn't track at all... it's dumbfire.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Buckshee Rounds on November 09, 2010, 08:07:34 am
Keep in mind that it's far easier to manouver in atmosphere. Down here you just need flaps on the missiles so they can steer. In space you need manouvering thrusters and/or vectored thrust.

Besides, the Hellfire doesn't track at all... it's dumbfire.

Uhh yeah, hence the real life missile has better tracking. :) It's not as if Freespace handles missiles with newtonian physics though.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: The E on November 09, 2010, 12:56:27 pm
Uhhh.......RL missiles use a hefty dose of thrust vectoring as well.....
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: -Norbert- on November 09, 2010, 03:54:19 pm
I know that missiles - and even planes for that matter - use vectored thrust today, but that doesn't change the fact that a missile can steer with flaps alone too in atmosphere and even those with vectored thrust use flaps in addition.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: kaloonzu on September 24, 2011, 08:04:17 pm
One influence I saw was more coincidence. The ship that rescues the Indus' crew, the Masyaf, is crewed by the Fedayeen, which was a relatively secret organization that conducted some assassinations and terrorist acts. In Assassin's Creed, Masyaf is the fortress that the assassins strike from, and the assassins were a secret organization that conducted assassinations.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Mars on September 24, 2011, 09:20:04 pm
I think...two of those traits are correct?

Steele kills his enemies with a nerve punch?
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: MatthTheGeek on September 25, 2011, 02:08:31 pm
One influence I saw was more coincidence. The ship that rescues the Indus' crew, the Masyaf, is crewed by the Fedayeen, which was a relatively secret organization that conducted some assassinations and terrorist acts. In Assassin's Creed, Masyaf is the fortress that the assassins strike from, and the assassins were a secret organization that conducted assassinations.
It has nothing to do with Assasins' Creed itself. AC was inspired by real, historical facts, and the citadel of Masyaf being an Assassin stronghold during the crusades is one of those facts. Both AC and BP using that reference is probably just a coincidence.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: QuakeIV on October 10, 2011, 10:57:57 pm
Keep in mind that it's far easier to manouver in atmosphere. Down here you just need flaps on the missiles so they can steer. In space you need manouvering thrusters and/or vectored thrust.

Besides, the Hellfire doesn't track at all... it's dumbfire.

The hellfire isn't dumbfire you moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-114_Hellfire

Direct quote:
Guidance system:
Semi-active laser homing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_guidance)
millimeter wave radar seeker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_radar_homing)
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Klaustrophobia on October 11, 2011, 12:05:40 am
i believe he was referring to the BP one.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: LordPomposity on October 11, 2011, 12:24:25 am
Keep in mind that it's far easier to manouver in atmosphere. Down here you just need flaps on the missiles so they can steer. In space you need manouvering thrusters and/or vectored thrust.

Besides, the Hellfire doesn't track at all... it's dumbfire.

The hellfire isn't dumbfire you moron.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-114_Hellfire

Direct quote:
Guidance system:
Semi-active laser homing (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_guidance)
millimeter wave radar seeker (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_radar_homing)
It behooves he who accuses others of being morons to have at least some idea what the conversation into which he is interjecting himself is about.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Darius on October 11, 2011, 01:56:15 am
This thread serves only one more purpose, and that is for me to say that Halo has nothing to do with the UEF and GTVA combat styles.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: -Norbert- on October 11, 2011, 06:19:35 am
I couldn't have said it any better than LordPomposity. QuakeIV, maybe you should spend less time combing wikipedia for weapon statistics and instead go out among people to get some notion of proper behaviour. Or at least look the word "polite" up in a dictionary.
Even if I would have been mistaken, there are much better ways to express yourself then yelling "moron" everytime someone makes a mistake.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Ravenholme on October 11, 2011, 01:57:28 pm
Keep in mind that it's far easier to manouver in atmosphere. Down here you just need flaps on the missiles so they can steer. In space you need manouvering thrusters and/or vectored thrust.

Besides, the Hellfire doesn't track at all... it's dumbfire.

The hellfire isn't dumbfire you moron.

Oh dear, the irony.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Buckshee Rounds on October 11, 2011, 04:25:47 pm
It would seem some dumbfires are dumber than most.
Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: LordPomposity on October 11, 2011, 05:23:45 pm
Please copy the following critically important patch to your blueplanet2/data/tables directory.

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Title: Re: Influences on Blue Planet (That I have spotted)
Post by: Darius on October 11, 2011, 07:15:29 pm
All right, all right. Back to work you lot.