[Qent]

A forward-facing Mjolnir: http://www.mediafire.com/?xk19816sgl49ede

[General Battuta]

A forward-facing Mjolnir: http://www.mediafire.com/?xk19816sgl49ede

Lacks dockpoints!

[Qent]

Wat rly? O.o

I... don't think it does.

[Droid803]

Forward facing Mjolnirs break retail missions. Hence they are stupid. (Well, at the very least it will totally obliterate the claim that you can play every retail mission properly with BP selected as a mod )
Dockpointed ones are better, since you can aim them by docking to an Argo then deleting the Argo afterwards

And you can still rotate them with ship-maneuver in-mission if you do it right. You just need to rotate your axes 90 degrees.

Though really, was just silly when the initially made mjolnirs.

[General Battuta]

Forward facing Mjolnirs break retail missions. Hence they are stupid. (Well, at the very least it will totally obliterate the claim that you can play every retail mission properly with BP selected as a mod )

I know you know how to create new ship.tbl entries, which makes this comment really silly!

[MatthTheGeek]

Forward facing Mjolnirs break retail missions. Hence they are stupid. (Well, at the very least it will totally obliterate the claim that you can play every retail mission properly with BP selected as a mod )

Wrong. You just have to have them named differently from the retail Mjolnir. Problem solved.

EDIT: Ninja'd

[Droid803]

So we'll have Mjolnir Mjolnir#Home and Mjolnir#Forward and Mjolnir#FORWARDHOME just because we can be redudnant.

[Trivial Psychic]

Don't forget Mjolnir#ForwardAutoTarget and Mjolnir#ForwardHomeAutoTarget. 

[Droid803]

and Mjolnir#IAmSoGoingToGoOverTheCharacterLimitAndCrashFSOCauseIAmCoolLikeThat

[Commander Zane]

It's already redundant that they have two in the first place.

[-Norbert-]

And since we alraedy are so far away from the original topic this is as good a place as any to ask.
Why is the home variant of the mjolnir even there? Apart from a different default weapon there seems to be no difference between the two.

[Commander Zane]

#Home has a field of fire so it isn't only firing in the direction that it's pointing.

[-Norbert-]

If you give the standard mjolnir the same beam the #home has (or any other weapon than it's original beam for that matter), it also has a field of fire.

[Commander Zane]

You just repeated what I said.

[-Norbert-]

Okay, then you must have misunderstood my question then. There are two models of Mjolnir. Not just two beams, but also two models complete with .pof files and table entries.

Everything the mjolnir#home model can do, a normal mjolnir can do as well if you replace it's weapon on FRED, so why have two identical models with just different default weaopns?

[Commander Zane]

2,000 extra hitpoints.

[Qent]

two models complete with .pof files

No there aren't. They're only different table entries. It's still redundant, though, especially since Mjolnir#home isn't even used AFAIK.

[Droid803]

I'm pretty sure one of the Mjolnirs in the kigns'gambit is a mjolnir#home

[Qent]

Oh you're right.

[Colonol Dekker]

Home = where all the Mjolnirs live