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Off-Topic Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Sandwich on March 08, 2005, 04:07:28 pm
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Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW 24-inch Wide Aspect Flat Panel LCD Monitor (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-4221&link_number=)
(http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/images/products/large/dp_t6133.jpg)
9 / 10 @ ExtremeTech review (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1764466,00.asp)
[q]Diagonal Size: 24"
Display Type: Flat Panel Display / Active Matrix TFT - Desktop
Depth: 9"
Features: 100 mm VESA Mounting, Height Adjustable Stand Included, Detachable Panel mechanism
Height: Compressed: 22", Extended: 25"
Weight: 22.1 lbs
Width: 22"
Image Max H-View Angle: ±89°
Image Max V-View Angle: ±89°
Color Support: 16.7 Million
Connectivity Technology: Cable
Device Type: Flat Panel LCD Monitor with Height Adjustable Stand
Dimensions (WxDxH): 22" x 9" x 22" to 25"
Dimensions (WxDxH) / Weight: 22" x 9" x 22" to 25" / 22.1 lbs
Enclosure Color: Midnight Gray
Image Aspect Ratio: 16:10
Image Brightness: 500 cd/m²(typical)
Image Contrast Ratio: 1000:1 (typical)
Max Resolution: 1920x1200 (WUXGA)
Max Sync Rate (V x H): 76 Hz x 81 kHz
Power Consumption Operational: 80 W (maximum)
Diagonal Size / Viewable Size: 24" / 24"
Port(s) Total (Free) / Connector Type: 15-pin D-sub / DVI-D / S-video / Composite / Component / 4 x USB 2.0
Compatibility: PC[/q]
It comes with a 9-in-1 flash card reader, pivot functionality, and none of the backlighting problems that plagued the 20" 2005FPW! Very few dead pixel reports, also unlike the 2005FPW.
All for $1199 retail (easily below $1k with the famous Dell discounts and coupons)???
:jaw:
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Dell sucks
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Originally posted by Splinter
Dell sucks
their tft screens are actually pretty decent. not eizo class, of course, but still...
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Ignore him; he's just jealous. And prejudiced. And stuck in the past.
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So are you going to buy it or are you just into marketing all of the sudden? :p
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Originally posted by Splinter
Dell sucks
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*saves up for this anyway* (http://www.techbuy.com.au/products/35251/MONITORS/View_Sonic/P95F_B/P95F_B_Professional_19_(Aperture_Grille)[email protected])
;)
what can i say?.. i still like my CRT's.
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Where's the response time?
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Originally posted by IceFire
Where's the response time?
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Response time is actually a very interesting point with the 2405. IIRC, it's rated as 16ms black-white, and 12ms gray-gray. However, the Samsung panel it's based around is rated at 8ms!
Subjective tests by [H] forumites have revealed a near-indetectable amount of smearing/ghosting, and then only when rapidly jerking around windows in the OS. Absolutely no problems playing games are reported.
And yes, I'm gonna buy it. Many people have been able to get it from Dell reps over the phone as low as $860 USD... ;7
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Sweet jebus thats just under 500 quid. For that size of lcd? Crikey.
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It's no Apple http://www.apple.com/displays/
But the price is right....
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Originally posted by Clave
It's no Apple http://www.apple.com/displays/
But the price is right....
:doubt:
20-inch Widescreens
Apple Cinema 20" (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?family=AppleDisplays): $999.00
Viewing Angle: 170° horizontal, 170° vertical
Brightness: 250 cd/m2
Contrast ratio: 400:1
Response time (typical): 16ms
Picture-in-picture / Picture-by-picture: No
Ergonomic adjustment: Tilt
Ports: 2 USB, 2 Firewire
Dell UltraSharp 2005FPW 20" (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=320-4111&c=us&l=en&cs=19&category_id=2999&page=external): $750 list ($636.65 as I type this)
Viewing Angle: 176° horizontal, 176° vertical
Brightness: 300 cd/m2
Contrast ratio: 600:1
Response time (typical): 12ms
Picture-in-picture / Picture-by-picture: Yes
Ergonomic adjustment: Tilt, height adjustment, rotation, pivot
Ports: 4 USB
23/24-inch Widescreens
Apple Cinema 23" (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?family=AppleDisplays): $1,799.00
Viewing Angle: 170° horizontal, 170° vertical
Brightness: 270 cd/m2
Contrast ratio: 400:1
Response time (typical): 16ms
Picture-in-picture / Picture-by-picture: No
Ergonomic adjustment: Tilt
Ports: 2 USB, 2 Firewire
Dell UltraSharp 2405FPW 24" (http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-4221&link_number=): $1,299
Viewing Angle: 178° horizontal, 178° vertical
Brightness: 500 cd/m2
Contrast ratio: 1000:1
Response time (typical): 12ms
Picture-in-picture / Picture-by-picture: Yes
Ergonomic adjustment: Tilt, height adjustment, rotation, pivot
Ports: 4 USB
Extras: Built-in 9-in-1 flash memory card reader
30-inch Widescreens
Apple Cinema 30" (http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore?family=AppleDisplays): $2,999.00
Viewing Angle: 170° horizontal, 170° vertical
Brightness: 270 cd/m2
Contrast ratio: 400:1
Response time (typical): 16ms
Picture-in-picture / Picture-by-picture: No
Ergonomic adjustment: Tilt
Ports: 2 USB, 2 Firewire
Dell 30" unavailable. Yet.
Finally, the Apple Cinema displays get mediocre reviews, whereas the Dell UltraSharp widescreens get good to great reviews. Ergo:
Dell LCD widescreens > Apple Cinema displays
:D
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Meh, they are still not as cool...
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True. You be cool and empty-of-pockets, I'll have better hardware, with money left over. :D
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a good flatscreen CRT will still outdo any LCD you throw at it. the only justifyable reason to buy an LCD is space.
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God I love LCDs.
Not because I actually use them, but things like this seriously drive the price down on high quality CRTs. Heck, ordered a 21 inch trinitron tube, used but in good condition, for $200 shipped from AZ to PA. Not too long ago that would've cost a small fortune, and you still can't beat the quality of Sony CRTs.
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Something IceFire said awhile back is applicable to me...
I dislike having something with a cathode-ray gun in it pointed at my head. :p
As a result, I have a nifty Samsung Syncmaster 712n. Only $275 at OfficeMax, great quality (Except for the water stain in the corner. Yes, it really is water.), and a fast response time so I don't go insane by playing games. :D
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I honestly dislike Dell from experiance. If I was rich, I'd contemplate that monitor. But for the moment, the Sony S74 is more along my lines.
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GW, from reports I've heard, it seems like Dell Computers and Dell LCD Monitors are two seperate companies. The may have a 5-dead-pixel policy, but if you call them up and complain about being unsatisfied, you'll have a UPS guy at your door in a few days with a replacement monitor, ready to pick up your old one. Besides, when list price is 1.2 grand, but you can get it for $860 by talking smooth to the reps, you gotta admit there's something to be said for the way they work. :D
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I'm not holding anything against the LCD division, or that monitor, which would be quite nice to have. It's just quite a bit out of my budget, as the money I have has to go to all components of a computer, not just the monitor :)
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I must admit, despite my ~$600 dollar investment on my 20'' wide Dell display... I still think the Apple Studio display is quite superior.
The blacks on my Dell is not as dark as the Apple's. There are hints of backlight bleeding on the corners of my screen, which gets annoying when watching dark scenes in movies.
On the flipside, Dell has a much brighter screen and I like its rotation feature. If I get a second one Dell display, I can rotate the 2nd one to a portrait alignment.
All in all I'm happy with the Dell for its price and size ratio. And I also enjoy my newly liberated deskspace.
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Originally posted by Omniscaper
I must admit, despite my ~$600 dollar investment on my 20'' wide Dell display... I still think the Apple Studio display is quite superior.
The blacks on my Dell is not as dark as the Apple's. There are hints of backlight bleeding on the corners of my screen, which gets annoying when watching dark scenes in movies.
On the flipside, Dell has a much brighter screen and I like its rotation feature. If I get a second one Dell display, I can rotate the 2nd one to a portrait alignment.
All in all I'm happy with the Dell for its price and size ratio. And I also enjoy my newly liberated deskspace.
Yeah, the backlight bleeding was a not-uncommon issue on the 2005FPW. The panel was made (IIRC) by LG; Dell switched to a Samsung panel in the 24" display, which has shown none of the abberations the 20" did.
That said, I've read numerous accounts that state that you can gently massage the backlight bleed out of the screen. Worth a try at least. :)