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Offline shiv

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Hi,
Polish community would like to have FS Wiki in polish language. It'd be similary chosen as on wikipedia.com. Is this possible to do on our FS Wiki?
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I'm sorry if my comment may seem a bit unappropriate, but do you really need a Polish Wiki? Polish FS players also speak English and can easily use the regular FS Wiki.

All efforts should be focused on the creation of only one Wiki... :)
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Offline Ziame

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Well the problem is that guys don't speak English well and they give us a headache :(
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Offline shiv

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Well, some of us speak english, but there's part of them that doesn't. They'd love to see tutorials fully understandable for them. basically we want to translate excisting articles from English wiki intro polish wiki sites.
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Well, translating tutorials doesn't really mean having a separate Wiki. :)
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Offline shiv

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Not only tutorials, but databases, everything ;)
And I think that'll need some organization.
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Offline Mongoose

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If the current wiki setup supports multiple language boards, then I say go for it. :) Even if it doesn't, you could always brute-force it by adding links to alternate-language pages at the top of each article.  The more people it can be a reference for, the better.

 

Offline General Battuta

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If the current wiki setup supports multiple language boards, then I say go for it. :) Even if it doesn't, you could always brute-force it by adding links to alternate-language pages at the top of each article.  The more people it can be a reference for, the better.

I agree. It'd be great to have Polish articles.

 

Offline Shade

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I see no problem with having more languages for the wiki - In fact, it sounds like a great idea for languages where there are people willing to provide translations. That said of course, I have no idea how hard it might be to set up properly, though if it comes to it we might fudge it by using namespaces.
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Offline eliex

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Personally I think it is a good idea to have the wiki in Polish - if the wiki layout can support it. If people are willing to translate Eng-Pol, then why not?

 

Offline Goober5000

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Could you do this?

 

Offline Ziame

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Well, we could use Google-Translate as a template, but well... we'll do it better, and we are rly willing to do it :)
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Offline shiv

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Could you do this?
Well, it looks horrible. It has nothing to do with polish grammar and it isn't much understable for poles ;)
Good to see that you agree for translations.
So what method are we going to choose? Choosing language at the start, similary to wikipedia.com or just translated artickes on our current wiki?
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Offline Shade

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I'd far prefer the wikipedia way as it is far cleaner than for example using namespaces to have multiple versions of the same article, but I suspect that'll take a lot of setting up on the part of HLP's admins. Not to mention the risk of breaking stuff while working on it.

Using namespaces to keep articles seperate would be simpler initially and could be done without admins getting involved, but in the long run would be a much worse solution - For example, random page could then give you a page in any of the languages used on the wiki, and searches and sorting algorithms would have a much larger database to go through... programmers will know that 4+4 rarely equals 8 when talking sorting, but instead can often come out closer to 16 :p

So, if it were my decision I'd say do it right the first time or not at all. No sense spending time on setting up namespaces (not to mention the constant fixing that'll be needed when people don't use them right) if it'll need to be changed anyway in a year or two.
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Offline Spicious

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I had no idea MediaWiki used bubble sort.

 

Offline shiv

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So what way can we do translations?
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Offline Goober5000

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The Wikipedia way sounds like the best option.

 

Offline shiv

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The Wikipedia way sounds like the best option.
Can someone set up first article(empty one) as example? Polish community will take care of the rest.
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Offline Shade

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The wikipedia way uses seperate subdomains for each language, so once that's set up all you should have to do is go to "pl.hard-light.net/wiki (or whatever the address ends up being)" and you should have all the usual interface stuff down the left side (presumably you'll want this translated too by the way), but no articles. Then you can get started by porting over the main page from the English version, or writing your own, and you're good to go :)

Also, you should find a couple of people who are willing to be wiki admins/sysops for the Polish version, as the current admins wouldn't stand a whelk's chance in a supernova of moderating it unless all spammers there are nice enough to spam in English :p
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Offline Goober5000

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Can somebody find instructions on how to set it up?