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Offline Leeko

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An interesting parallel
Anyone remember Homeworld? I just realized that in both you return to your home to find it burning, and in both you find a ship that shows you what happened. Of course, in Homeworld it was a Taidanii frigate, and not an escape pod. And it wasn't really their home, either. :P
« Last Edit: August 06, 2009, 08:14:14 am by Leeko »

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: An interesting parallel
Yep and the sanctuary is like the mothership too, but I try to ignore it as I enjoy BP regardless :)
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline General Battuta

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Re: An interesting parallel
You don't have to ignore it. Most science fiction stories reference each other pretty heavily. Intertextuality is neat.

 

Offline Leeko

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Re: An interesting parallel
Yeah, and Homeworld was a great game. Heavy reference to it doesn't detract from BP at all. :D
« Last Edit: August 06, 2009, 10:52:21 pm by Leeko »

 

Offline Leeko

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Re: An interesting parallel
Also, both involve the better part of your race being saved in cryogenic stasis.

 

Offline Aardwolf

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Re: An interesting parallel
Yep and the sanctuary is like the mothership too, but I try to ignore it as I enjoy BP regardless :)

Wait, what? The sanctuary, how?

 

Offline General Battuta

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Re: An interesting parallel
Yep and the sanctuary is like the mothership too, but I try to ignore it as I enjoy BP regardless :)

Wait, what? The sanctuary, how?

Also, both involve the better part of your race being saved in cryogenic stasis.

 
Re: An interesting parallel
Anyone remember Homeworld? I just realized that in both you return to your home to find it burning, and in both you find a ship that shows you what happened. Of course, in Homeworld it was a Taidanii frigate, and not an escape pod. And it wasn't really their home, either. :P


Eh . . . that's a bit of stretch I think. I don't see any similarities between Homeworld and BP at all.

 

Offline -Norbert-

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Re: An interesting parallel
No? Let's see...

The Homeworld is obliterated by a superiour enemy force. The last survivours flee in a massive ship. Most of the people in the ship are inside of stasis pods, but some are awake to crew the ship and it's attending escorts.

And now tell me wether I wrote about Blue Planet or Homeworld...

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: An interesting parallel
Homeworld, the crew are defrosted. Whereas the sanctuary pilots were born on it :p
 
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: An interesting parallel
Small wonder considering that the whole oddesy of the Mothership took only month, while the Sanctuary was hiding from the Shivans for decades....

But looking back it does seem really stupid for Homeworld to unfreeze pilots and shove them in a cockpit, but I guess they didn't really have any other choice in the matter.

"Oh hey, sorry to wake you up prematurely, but you have to pilot a warship. And by the way, our homeworld was toasted while you were asleep."
Now that's a hell of a wakeupcall....

 

Offline Leeko

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Re: An interesting parallel
I believe the cryo-tray sleepers weren't awakened until they returned to Hiigara. There was something in the HW:Cataclysm historical and tech briefing manual about that. Which is why mimics are given suicidal pilots - sleepers who couldn't bear to live without their loved ones who stayed on Kharak, and decided to do something meaningful with their deaths.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2009, 08:02:15 am by Leeko »

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Re: An interesting parallel
Only the kith saam-tàw emo-sleepers became mimics. The rest just got on with it.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

Your friendly Orestes tactical controller.

Secret bomb God.
That one time I got permabanned and got to read who was being bitxhy about me :p....
GO GO DEKKER RANGERSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The only good Zod is a dead Zod
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Offline -Norbert-

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Re: An interesting parallel
Yeah right... the others just commited "normal" suicide instead of "kamikaze suicide"....

 

Offline Leeko

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Re: An interesting parallel
From the aforementioned history brief:
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One of the most difficult aspects of the Hiigaran Landfall was the retrieval of our so-called "Sleeper Kiithid", the 92% of our current population who traveled from Kharak to Hiigara in cryogenic suspension... The Sleepers began their mission with a willingness to sacrifice themselves... In the first few weeks after Landfall, there were dozens of suicides... There were no children on board the Mothership, nor any of our elders... Sleepers lost their blood links to both past and future...

And there were only about 10,000 Kiith Somtaaw sleepers around. So I'm inclined to believe that Somtaaw emo mimics aren't the only suicidal Hiigarans out there. :P
Hmm... I never really realized how dark Cataclysm is by comparison. Its themes are hubris, suicide, and disease. Not to mention the Bentusi turned into serious jerks. Though I think the units voices were rather... comical. Like how mimics screamed when you gave them kamikaze orders, and processors sounded like really old guys. I also giggled on the inside a little anytime tactical said "Destroyer destroyed." But that's just me. ;7
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Offline Commander Zane

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Re: An interesting parallel
The unit voices on Cataclysm were how they should've been on the other two Homeworlds, they had a unique voice for each class of ship, instead of EVERYTHING being the same voice except the Mothership.

 

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Re: An interesting parallel
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Like how mimics screamed when you gave them kamikaze orders
Interresting I gotta try that out.
What does it say about my character that I never once initiated a single kamikaze command in my numerous playthroughs of Homeworld and Cataclysm?

 

Offline Leeko

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Re: An interesting parallel
That you never got desperate on the mission where you get jumped by 3 heavy cruisers and 8 destroyers due to sabotage. :(
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The unit voices on Cataclysm were how they should've been on the other two Homeworlds, they had a unique voice for each class of ship, instead of EVERYTHING being the same voice except the Mothership.
It wasn't a criticism, if you were thinking that, I do agree. :nod:

Oh and speaking of desperate measures, I just realized after years in my last playthrough of Cataclysm, which was about a week ago, that I can give my ships self-destruct orders while they are being infected. Made things so much easier. :lol:
« Last Edit: August 20, 2009, 08:54:13 am by Leeko »

 

Offline Darius

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Re: An interesting parallel
Hubris, suicide and disease coupled with desperate measures. Sounds like a game I should try out. Played HW 1 and 2, but never got to Cataclysm.

 

Offline Leeko

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Re: An interesting parallel
A lot of die hard HW fans condemned Cataclysm and don't consider it canon, but it's my favorite of the three. Partly because I'm a sucker for space parasite stories, but also because it had the best out-of-cutscene (well, except the return to Kharak mission) storytelling of the three IMO. The standard units have the most personality out of any of the three, and the main characters (Fleet Command and Tactical) are much more emotive than in HW1 or 2. It also had good music; the only memorable tracks from HW1 in my opinion are the Turanic Raider theme and the a capella rendition of Adagio for Strings.

I highly recommend it. :yes:
« Last Edit: August 20, 2009, 10:06:16 am by Leeko »