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Offline Androgeos Exeunt

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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
Yay, completed the entire mod without cheating on Very Easy. :D

Keepers Of Hell ended up being pretty easy.

Spoiler:
All I needed was a Preacher. I sent everyone else to guard the Keeper while I flew all over the place shooting down beam cannons and getting dogged relentlessly by Shivan fighters. The Keeper made it out with 42% hull.

The one thing that I did have problems with was the Lucifer. It took me three tries to pass that mission.

Spoiler:
The Orestes said that I can either destroy the reactors or go for the engines. On my first attempt, I went after the main beam cannons, and the Lucifer jumped out on me. On my second attempt, I went after the engines to keep it from jumping out, but they were so oddly-placed and so durable that I couldn't even destroy one. On my third attempt, I did a quick scan of the Lucifer's reactors and saw that only three were operational. Since I had three wings, I ordered them to attack one reactor each. Alpha wing took care of Reactor 1 with no problems. Beta wing died completely attempting to eradicate Reactor 2, but they managed to get it down to 5%, and it was subsequently destroyed by one of my wingmen. Gamma wing, which comprised of three Preacher fighters, took out Reactor 5 on their own, which completely surprised me, since they had no bombs.

I was completely uncertain that my third attempt would succeed. When Reactor 2 was about to blow, I saw the hull integrity of the Lucifer and prayed very hard that Gamma had done their job. It was a pleasant shock to learn that they did.

The Lucifer jumps out once its hull reaches 11%. When the final reactor was blown, it had 19% hull, and the Orestes' battlegroup was so ready to reduce its hull by another 8%, which would definitely have prompted it to warp out.

Universal Truth ended up becoming almost as much of a pain as Forced Entry.

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It was so bad that I actually had to send Alpha wing to protect the Fortune, which speaks volumes since I've never ever had to assign a wing to protect a GTL Anemoi. The Orestes and Temeraire jumped out with their hull integrity at 43 and 47 percent. The Fortune made it out with 40% hull. None of the ships made it out with 100% hull; the closest to this was the Solace, which had 99%.
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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
The one thing that I did have problems with was the Lucifer. It took me three tries to pass that mission.
Spoiler:
The Orestes said that I can either destroy the reactors or just pummel it to dust. On my first attempt, I went after the main beam cannons, and the Lucifer jumped out on me. On my second attempt, I went after the engines to keep it from jumping out, but they were so oddly-placed and so durable that I couldn't even destroy one. On my third attempt, I did a quick scan of the Lucifer's reactors and saw that only three were operational. Since I had three wings, I ordered them to attack one reactor each. Alpha wing took care of the first reactor with no problems. Beta wing died completely attempting to eradicate the second reactor, but they managed to get it down to 5%, and it was subsequently destroyed by one of my wingmen. Gamma wing, which comprised of three Preacher fighters, took out Reactor 5 on their own, which completely surprised me, since they had no bombs.
Spoiler:
the orestes actually says either kill the reactors or the engines.  my first playthrough, i tried for the engines, because i wanted to THEN pummel it to dust, but i quickly realized that wasn't happening.  the engines are rediculously strong, even a full bombload wouldn't take both down.  so reactors it is.  you actually only need to destroy 2 of them, numbers 2 and 4 IIRC.  the orestes and company will destroy the other live one (#3?) in the second or third beam volley.
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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
The Lucifer doesn't start out with any reactors destroyed, mind. But the Vishnan strike force targets its beam fire well.

 

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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
The Lucifer doesn't start out with any reactors destroyed, mind. But the Vishnan strike force targets its beam fire well.
really?  :wtf:  2 of them were down by the time i targeted it. 
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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
As I said, the Vishnans are very good. You can see the Arbiters opening fire immediately.

 

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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
Am I the only one who preferred the previous mainhall?

 

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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
still have not beaten the Lucifer mission. (Playing on medium)

It's pretty much impossible to destroy the mentioned systems (both using bombers or fighters only, as well as using a mix of both)
because you will make more damage to the Lucifer, not to mention your allies.
As soon as it's at 11%, it's out. Tried going after engines, after the reactors, tried it 10 times now. Problematic design decision here.


Oh and yes, two reactors are down at the start of the mission. It's still not enough.




by the way, Forced Entry was awesome.
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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
As I said, the Vishnans are very good. You can see the Arbiters opening fire immediately.

Well, that explains why I only had to kill three of them. Still quite a task, though. :nervous:

Stability-wise, BP had almost no problems running on 3.6.12 RC1 Inferno. There is only one small problem, which I believe I've told Herra already.
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[20:28:44] <Hades> i want you guys to know that i'm using the stop font as my irc font
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[20:29:12] <Oddgrim-Work> Change the font to vasudan standard and then you'll have a bad time
[20:29:24] <Hades> http://i.imgur.com/N2f8qA4.png
[20:29:47] <z64555> change the font to vasudan comic sans, then you'll have a real bad time
[20:30:02] <Oddgrim-Work> Thats a terrible font
[20:30:06] <EvilBagel> comic headz

 

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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
Are there going to be any specific updates to AoA when 3.6.12 final is released?

...In all honesty, I'll be tempted to hold out just a little longer for this if that's the case.
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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
Feature creeper. :P
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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
Are there going to be any specific updates to AoA when 3.6.12 final is released?

...In all honesty, I'll be tempted to hold out just a little longer for this if that's the case.

No, there probably won't be updates beyond of what Fury has already published (in the Black Market thread).
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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
I assume there will be AoA update in about 4 weeks to fix any bugs found. Possibly earlier update to the 3.6.12 Feature Pack to fix several issues and re-do weapon rebalance part which didn't quite work out as planned due to lack of proper pre-release feedback. Any new features will be added to Black Market topic, but they will never be part of official downloads.

 

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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
Awww...

 :(
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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
still have not beaten the Lucifer mission. (Playing on medium)

It's pretty much impossible to destroy the mentioned systems (both using bombers or fighters only, as well as using a mix of both)
because you will make more damage to the Lucifer, not to mention your allies.
As soon as it's at 11%, it's out. Tried going after engines, after the reactors, tried it 10 times now. Problematic design decision here.


Oh and yes, two reactors are down at the start of the mission. It's still not enough.

That mission was heavily tested. It's definitely possible, and far from 'pretty much impossible'. Adjust your tactics.

Forget the engines. Go for the reactors.

Awww...

 :(

Exactly what are you looking for? You have a massive 3.6.12 feature pack at your disposal that does everything you want.

 

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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
It's pretty much impossible to destroy the mentioned systems (both using bombers or fighters only, as well as using a mix of both)
because you will make more damage to the Lucifer, not to mention your allies.
As soon as it's at 11%, it's out. Tried going after engines, after the reactors, tried it 10 times now. Problematic design decision here.

Oh and yes, two reactors are down at the start of the mission. It's still not enough.

Spoiler:
Try giving Preachers (the one with ten guns) to Beta and Gamma wing. Beta tends to go down very fast if you give them the medium bomber.

When I did my third and first successful attempt at this mission, Gamma took down a single reactor on their own. Beta, on the other hand, died VERY BADLY flying bombers.
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Quote: 16 September 2016 Friday, 2028hrs UTC+8, #hard-light
[20:28:44] <Hades> i want you guys to know that i'm using the stop font as my irc font
[20:28:46] <Hades> it is a bad time
[20:29:12] <Oddgrim-Work> Change the font to vasudan standard and then you'll have a bad time
[20:29:24] <Hades> http://i.imgur.com/N2f8qA4.png
[20:29:47] <z64555> change the font to vasudan comic sans, then you'll have a real bad time
[20:30:02] <Oddgrim-Work> Thats a terrible font
[20:30:06] <EvilBagel> comic headz

 
Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
Am I the only one who preferred the previous mainhall?

No.

By the way, I have not been able to start the first mission of BP, because for some reason, it either has a very long loading time, or it has crashed completely (impossible to determine).

Since I am rather new to FS open bugs, someone got to hand-walk me trough this...

 

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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
I have not been able to start the first mission of BP, because for some reason, it either has a very long loading time, or it has crashed completely (impossible to determine).

Since I am rather new to FS open bugs, someone got to hand-walk me trough this...
Your fs2_open.log (as described here) and system specs couldn't hurt.
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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
Do you have glowmaps turned off?

Whatever the problem is, it has nothing to do with BP, since BP does not alter those assets.

Am I the only one who preferred the previous mainhall?

The previous mainhall was a screenshot from a Supreme Commander cinematic. We could definitely do better than that.

 

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Re: BP: Age of Aquarius - The Director's Cut discussion
When I did my third and first successful attempt at this mission, Gamma took down a single reactor on their own. Beta, on the other hand, died VERY BADLY flying bombers.

nah, does not work. I don't have a problem keeping my people alive or something, it's mathematically impossible. However, I have a brilliant solution in mind for tomorrow: Switch to Easy for this mission, since that gives you a huge bonus on subsystem damage  :lol:

Honestly, this is a balancing problem. Give the Lucy more hitpoints!
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