[karajorma]

It's drawing attention to the fact that we have an IRC channel so I'm okay with leaving it here

[Gortef]

I have no problem having your problem being discussed here either.

Now I must say that at this point I would suspect the ISP itself, even if it wouldn't be the case.
I can't say that I'm an expert in IRC protocols so I'm out of ideas when helping out remotely like this... sorry.
I'll think about it though... someone else should help the poor guy out aswell...

[BS403]

yesterday it workede fine today i'm getting
[23:50] Unable to connect : java.net.ConnectException : Connection timed out: connect
I don't know whats wrong.
BTW i'm using trillian

[Dysko]

Uhm... it's strange...
Yesterday evening the Internet service was interrupted by my phone company due to a "technical problem". Now that they have fixed it the IRC works...

[Gortef]

hah, router configurations on there were wrong or something else

anyway, main thing is that it works and all is well

[Turey]

For all you people NOT on the IRC channel, here's a taste of what you're missing:

[INFO]   Channel view for “#hard-light” opened.
   -->|   YOU (Thomas_) have joined #hard-light
   =-=   Topic for #hard-light is “Welcome to #Hard-Light, Straightjackets are down the hall to your left, next to the loo, Fire extinguishers are located every five meters, and please, don't feed the shivans.”
   =-=   Topic for #hard-light was set by Turnsky on 01/03/2007 01:59:27 AM
   <Thomas_>   hey
   <Thomas_>   hello?
   <Brandx0>   Hi
   <Axem>   hoy
   <Thomas_>   hi everyone
   <Thomas_>   so
   <Thomas_>   what is everyone doing?
   <Brandx0>   Arguing over a page layout =P
   <chief1983>   
   <Thomas_>   so
   <Thomas_>   how do i get freespace?
   <chief1983>   fsoinstaller.com
   <Thomas_>   ok
   <chief1983>   should have everything you need to get started
   <Thomas_>   um...
   <Thomas_>   what are these?

3.6.8 Zeta MediaVPs (optional, includes the 710 patches)
3.6.8 Zeta adveffects (only for those with high-power systems, requires regular MediaVPs, includes 710 patch)
   <chief1983>   addons created by the Hard-Light community
   <Brandx0>   updated graphics files
   <chief1983>   to make it look pretty
   <Thomas_>   oh
   <Thomas_>   ok
   <chief1983>   the stock FS2 graphics are a bit dated these days
   <Thomas_>   um...
   <chief1983>   the Media VPs take advantage of the changes that have been made to the game's graphics engine by the Source Code team.
   <Thomas_>   does this work on linux? It says .exe
   <chief1983>   get the .jar
   <Thomas_>   i don't have java
   <chief1983>   and run it with java -jar whatever.jar
   <chief1983>   or maybe --jar
   <chief1983>   oh
   <chief1983>   wine?
   -->|   RK_Lurks ([email protected]) has joined #hard-light
   <Thomas_>   i don't have wine either.
   <chief1983>   Well, there's currently no easy way to get the files besides one of those, for linux
   <Thomas_>   oh.
   <Thomas_>   ok.
   <chief1983>   You can manually figure out all the files to get
   <chief1983>   or install java first
   <chief1983>   I'd do the latter
   <Thomas_>   ok.
   <chief1983>   What linux are you using that didn't come with Java?
   <chief1983>   Gentoo?
   <Thomas_>   idk
   <Thomas_>   does FC 6 have Java installed?
   <chief1983>   It should
   <Thomas_>   oh
   <chief1983>   I'm pretty sure it's a default option
   <chief1983>   you have access to a terminal?
   <chief1983>   run 'java --version'
   <chief1983>   and see what it says
   <chief1983>   or 'which java'
   <Thomas_>   it wants me to open it with the archive manager.
   <chief1983>   don't open it
   <chief1983>   you need to just run it
   <chief1983>   it is an archive
   <chief1983>   but you need to run it by hand in the console
   <Thomas_>   oh
   <Thomas_>   ok
   <chief1983>   opening it will just show you the source code files
   <chief1983>   won't do you much good
   <chief1983>   one more thing, I think you need to have the directory already existing before you run the installer
   <chief1983>   wherever you're going to install it to
   <Thomas_>   Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar
   <chief1983>   so make a /usr/games/FreeSpace2 or whatever first and you should be good to go
   <chief1983>   hmm
   <chief1983>   agaffney
   <chief1983>   ping
   <agaffney>   'sup?
   * agaffney   pokes chief1983
   <chief1983>   you recognize that error?
   <chief1983>   sorry working in the lab
   <Thomas_>   can i put it in home/Thomas/?
   <chief1983>   you're the only other person in here I know knows more linux/java than me at the moment
   <chief1983>   yeah wherever should work
   <chief1983>   Did you get it workin?
   <Thomas_>   no
   <chief1983>   ok
   <Thomas_>   java -jar FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar, right?
   <chief1983>   I believe so, yes
   <chief1983>   make sure the console's directory is the directory it's in too
   <Thomas_>   hey!
   <chief1983>   if it's in /home/Thomas/Desktop or whatever, make sure you've cd'd to /home/Thomas/Desktop first
   <Thomas_>   it's working
   <chief1983>   cool
   <Thomas_>   Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: java.util.Scanner
at THFileIO.<init>(THFileIO.java:21)
at FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.main(FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.java:44)
   <Thomas_>   
   =-=   RK_Lurks is now known as RazorsKiss
   <agaffney>   chief1983: what error?
   <agaffney>   ah
   <agaffney>   wow, that's a worthless error
   <chief1983>   Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.jar
   <chief1983>   that one
   <Thomas_>   no
   <Thomas_>   the second one
   <chief1983>   got it figured out though
   <Thomas_>   the first one was fixed
   <chief1983>   oh
   <chief1983>   maybe not
   <chief1983>   yeah
   <chief1983>   got it now
   <chief1983>   That next one is probably a job for Turey
   -->|   Turey_ ([email protected]) has joined #hard-light
   <Turey_>   hey
   <Axem>   speaking of the devil
   <chief1983>   wtf
   <RazorsKiss>   speak of the devil
   <chief1983>   haha
   <chief1983>   Hey turey
   <Thomas_>   wow
   <Thomas_>   that's fast service.
   <Thomas_>   
   <chief1983>   sure is
   <Turey_>   huh>?
   <chief1983>   <Thomas_> Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: java.util.Scanner
   <chief1983>   <Thomas_> at THFileIO.<init>(THFileIO.java:21)
   <chief1983>   <Thomas_> at FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.main(FreeSpaceOpenInstaller.java:44)
   <RazorsKiss>   [20:54:40] <chief1983> That next one is probably a job for Turey
   <Turey_>   He doesn't have Java 1.5
   <chief1983>   any clue what's up with that?
   <Thomas_>   oh
   <chief1983>   ah
   <Thomas_>   yeah
   <Thomas_>   it said 1.4.2
   <chief1983>   Ok.
   <chief1983>   well damn.
   <chief1983>   wonder what's the easiest way to get 1.5 on FC6
   <Thomas_>   hmmmm.
   <Turey_>   well, if that's it...
   <Turey_>   i was just popping in...
   <Turey_>   see ya
   |<--   Turey_ has left cosmos.esper.net (Quit: Chatzilla 0.9.77 [Firefox 2.0.0.1/2006120418])
   <Thomas_>   he was nice.
   <Thomas_>   oh, and btw.
   <agaffney>   heh
   <Axem>   now let me try
   <Axem>   turey, i want a cookie
   <agaffney>   Thomas_: the easiest way to get 1.5 on FC6 is to use another distro
   <Thomas_>   BAH
   <Thomas_>   Gentoo sucks
   <Axem>   hmm
   <agaffney>   Thomas_: eat me
   <agaffney>   and I didn't say Gentoo
   <agaffney>   just not FC
   <agaffney>   hmm, my 3 key is acting funny on my new keyboard
   <agaffney>   I have to press on the entire button
   <agaffney>   not just part of it like I can with the other keys in the number row
   <chief1983>   haha
   <Thomas_>   *cough*
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   <agaffney>   wtf?
   <agaffney>   freak
   <chief1983>   haha
   <Axem>   where's my cookie
   * Turey   gives Axem a cookie.
   <Axem>   yay
   <Turey>   I just installed Fedora today
   <RazorsKiss>   l.o.l.
   * agaffney   gives his condolences
   <Turey>   and I thought I'd play around with you guys. XD
   <chief1983>   Ass
   <chief1983>   This whole ****ing conversation should be bashed
   <RazorsKiss>   chief, you're very helpful
   <RazorsKiss>   and Turey is mean
   <Turey>   XD
   <chief1983>   well thanks
   <RazorsKiss>   burn turey!
   <RazorsKiss>   pitchforks!
   <RazorsKiss>   villagers!
   <Turey>   
   <FUBAR-BDHR>   Forgot the torches
   <chief1983>   and the scales
   <RazorsKiss>   implied, in "burn"
   <chief1983>   to weigh him against a duck
   <agaffney>   hah
   <RazorsKiss>   'and their thatched roof COTTAGES!
   <Turey>   
   <RazorsKiss>   '
   <chief1983>   If he's lighter than a duck, he must float
   <chief1983>   and therefore, be made of wood
   <chief1983>   making him...
   <Turey>   A Witch!
   <chief1983>   Exactly
   <Turey>   I'm such a bastard.
   <agaffney>   yes, yes you are

[Dysko]

Usually, at what time there are on IRC people ready for a multi match?

[Mongoose]

Turey, that is golden

[Goober5000]

   <chief1983>   That next one is probably a job for Turey
   -->|   Turey_ ([email protected]) has joined #hard-light
   <Turey_>   hey

[Getter Robo G]

WOW that's a lot more activity then I usually see... (lots of dead air) they must be playing.

I'm gonna check now...

[Taristin]

That could have easily been over the course of 2 hours

IRC is, by nature, often idleness.

[Turey]

That could have easily been over the course of 2 hours

IRC is, by nature, often idleness.

It was all of 5 min max, but I see your point.

[Fury]

Is this thing still alive?

[Wanderer]

More or less.. probably less though

[an0n]

We have infected your IRC.

Made it better, faster, cooler...

We have the technology. We use it to make desk catapults.

[Sandwich]

[Grey Wolf]

What, you can't handle us doubling the number of people in your IRC channel?

[chief1983]

Yeah but it'd be nice if you don't ban us for visiting yours.

[Flipside]

Warpstorm IRC is a natural extension of the Rift, expect to get banned for no reason whatsoever, or because the op is bored, basically, when dealing with WS, expect the unexpected

[chief1983]

So like, the Spanish Inquisition?