[Polpolion]

You're still missing the point. The entire point of monkeys is to prevent people from misbehaving, not shove people to the side as a response to an action. TBH, I think that if you think the punishment is just, the punishment actually isn't harsh enough.

[Goober5000]

The monkey usergroup is for people who have repeatedly demonstrated their inability to civilly participate in public discussion.  It's not for minor or one-off offenses.

For minor offenses what I've done in the past is simply temp-ban someone based on the severity of the offense.  For an isolated incident I might ban someone for two days.  If it's particularly severe I'd ban him for a week or two.  I don't expect this to change.  Monkeying and banning are two separate concepts.

[haloboy100]

I understand it fine. Monkeying people for being idiots, ban them for doing directly bad things.

[colecampbell666]

And if you want to see what not to do, look at BlackDove's last posts. He pretty much pops into threads to say "I DON'T CARE!!!!11" in some random picture, and leaves or *****es at you.

All in all, I think that the new system is good.


And BTW, did you un-monkey everyone on purpose, or was it caused by the forum upgrade.

[blowfish]

1) All currently monkeyed users will be unmonkeyed so everyone starts off on the same foot.  (This was actually done a few months ago, back when the idea first came up.)

[colecampbell666]

I know that he said that, but don't you think it's suspicious that it coincides directly with the date of the update?

[Kie99]

Why is a fixed length of time for monkeying preferable to a variable one?  I can't see any advantage to it.

[Flaser]

...it's like the law. The law's purpose is not in telling you what to do (that's what where education and upbringing come in) it is in laying down the common consensus on how far you're allowed to go.

The reason why a fixed date is good is that anyone going over those lines will know what's coming for them. Also the "judge" will have a wrought response that he can apply without personal bias.
The later is of course present in his judgment in the first place, but it's consequences and the punishment itself won't be a point of debate. Judgments can be appealed and lifted under certain circumstances, but simply put what this rule does is:

Make all Monkey business a question of whether the Monkeyed user is guilty of mass disruption or not.

[Androgeos Exeunt]

Don't kill me for bumping this...

I was wondering if Custom Titles like Colonel Dekker's (sorry, needed to quote a valid example) are part of the Monkey system.

[Mongoose]

If you're referring to the technical, SMF-code side of things, then I wouldn't be able to tell you.  But otherwise, no, custom titles have nothing at all to do with the monkeying system.  They're assigned at whim by the admins (especially Goober) to call attention to some aspect of a poster's personality or history.  It's most often the case that a user's title represents a particularly noteworthy achievement by that user, or an occurrence that that user was involved in...whether the noteworthiness be in the positive or negative sense.  For instance, my own title doubles as both a cute literary reference and an allusion to a certain discussion I was involved in with another poster.  (Ten points if you guess who!)  There's some rather amusing history behind a lot of the titles, and those that are links tend to be the funniest of all.

[Droid803]

For instance, my own title doubles as both a cute literary reference and an allusion to a certain discussion I was involved in with another poster.  (Ten points if you guess who!)

Cobra?
We sure have a fair number of animals used as usernames here...

[colecampbell666]

Goober?

[Topgun]

If you're referring to the technical, SMF-code side of things, then I wouldn't be able to tell you.  But otherwise, no, custom titles have nothing at all to do with the monkeying system.  They're assigned at whim by the admins (especially Goober) to call attention to some aspect of a poster's personality or history.  It's most often the case that a user's title represents a particularly noteworthy achievement by that user, or an occurrence that that user was involved in...whether the noteworthiness be in the positive or negative sense.  For instance, my own title doubles as both a cute literary reference and an allusion to a certain discussion I was involved in with another poster.  (Ten points if you guess who!)  There's some rather amusing history behind a lot of the titles, and those that are links tend to be the funniest of all.

Top Gun?

[colecampbell666]

Not to be confused with Topgun.

[Topgun]

not that Top Gun has posted recently (its been YEARS AFAIK). except SG Top Gun, who is hlp mongoose.

[Mongoose]

not that Top Gun has posted recently (its been YEARS AFAIK). except SG Top Gun, who is hlp mongoose.

Not that this is on-topic, but yes, I am the Top Gun from Sectorgame (and various other places).  The only reason I went with Mongoose here was because that name was already taken...and I kind of miffed a bit (but for the best) on making a reference to the movie.   And yes, the other poster was Cobra.  Goober saw us having a somewhat heated discussion somewhere and was struck with a bit of inspiration.

Not that any of this has anything to do with monkeys...

[Flipside]

User titles reflect either interesting events in that members life, a comment on their behaviour, or simply something done for the hell of it, there's no real hard or fast rule, for example, my title either reads as Flipside 'flipped' or a strange mutation of 'asplode!', I'm trying to decide which

[Androgeos Exeunt]

User titles reflect either interesting events in that members life, a comment on their behaviour, or simply something done for the hell of it, there's no real hard or fast rule, for example, my title either reads as Flipside 'flipped' or a strange mutation of 'asplode!', I'm trying to decide which

Is that why AlphaOne has a string of exclamation marks?

[colecampbell666]

It's because he's a bit excitable.

[Snail]

No, it's not because he's excitable, it's because he ends all his sentences with exclamation marks! Like so! Even the ones he doesn't mean to emphasize!