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   Most people tend to go for campaigns moreso than single missions these days. You could always try a short 3-4 mission campaign if you're wary about investing a lot of time into it. Keeping in mind that the subject matter may turn some people off, but if you made it fairly amusing it might garner a good response.

    I haven't downloaded it personally, there's a WHOLE bunch of campaigns on here that I've not even played yet. Just starting on PI which was released like 2 years ago at the minimum.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

  • The Back of the Hero!
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PI which was released like 2 years ago at the minimum.
Well, actually... 2008 - 2007 =/= 2.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 
PI which was released like 2 years ago at the minimum.
Well, actually... 2008 - 2007 =/= 2.

What's this =/= thing? It's != for programming stuff. I thought it was older anyway, as I've played a few older ones recently. Ransom's for one. But anyway this is getting a bit off-topic.

 

Offline Nuclear1

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PI was released last year, but had been in development for eons.
Spoon - I stand in awe by your flawless fredding. Truely, never before have I witnessed such magnificant display of beamz.
Axem -  I don't know what I'll do with my life now. Maybe I'll become a Nun, or take up Macrame. But where ever I go... I will remember you!
Axem - Sorry to post again when I said I was leaving for good, but something was nagging me. I don't want to say it in a way that shames the campaign but I think we can all agree it is actually.. incomplete. It is missing... Voice Acting.
Quanto - I for one would love to lend my beautiful singing voice into this wholesome project.
Nuclear1 - I want a duet.
AndrewofDoom - Make it a trio!

 

Offline Spicious

  • Master Chief John-158
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What's this =/= thing?
It's an ascii approximation of the mathematical not equal symbol.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

  • The Back of the Hero!
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  • Bwahaha
What's this =/= thing?
It's an ascii approximation of the mathematical not equal symbol.
Aye. Not familiar with programming stuff and copypasting an "actual" not equal symbol from Word or something would be too much of a pain in the arse.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline TopAce

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I can't provide you with any more positive feedbak that I already gave to you. Instead I have some further suggestions.

If you plan to release your very first series of missions as a campaign, please take the advice of the more experienced. Extract others' missions from their campaigns' VP files and analyze them. See what sort of tricks you can use for you campaign. I suggest taking the Main Campaign's missions as examples for starters.

Make sure that every mission in your campaign has everything that a mission is expected to have. Briefings, customizable loadout unless plot dictates otherwise, mission goals, directives, ships in the Escort List, etc. Put a lot of effort into testing every single mission. Consult the FSWiki for some advice.

Also, make your storyline so that it could be translated into FreeSpace. Don't just throw the player into the middle of it, saying "This is World War II in space. You're in Poland now." Try to make it more or less consistent with the FS universe (because you're using FS ships). Like make the Nazis a new NTF, who are taking extreme measures on Vasudans. Make Vasuda Prime fill the same role in your story as France did in WWII. Use bunch of transparent references to real-world persons and events instead of specifically calling the main antagonist "Hitler" or referring to Stalingrad. In other words, plunge the player into a world that is very similar to that of WWII. It's a better way of doing the kind of storyline you're trying to tell.

If you want me to specify or further explain something, let me know.
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Offline sgtbeil

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thx for that, but all i really want to know is how to fix that bug that i posted.

 

Offline TopAce

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The AWOL one?

It's because the Event "AWOL" automatically begins as "true" because all mission goals begin as "incomplete". To demonstrate:

AWOL
-and
--is-goal-incomplete
---first goal
--is-goal-incomplete
--second goal
In the first second of the mission, the two goals are incomplete: Not all the Jews are saved and not all Nazis are destroyed. FS recognizes this, and as a consequence, the Event turns "true" and will not refresh if a mission goal turns true (complete) or false (fail).

Please read this FSWiki article and look at the mission file that is included with it. Juxtapose the article and the mission, and you'll see.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2008, 03:36:00 pm by TopAce »
My community contributions - Get my campaigns from here.

I already announced my retirement twice, yet here I am. If I bring up that topic again, don't believe a word.

 

Offline sgtbeil

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im gonna be on vacation for about two weeks, where after hopefully i can get around to working on this campaign, keep in mind that i also have a job six days a week with 15 hour shifts

 
im gonna be on vacation for about two weeks, where after hopefully i can get around to working on this campaign, keep in mind that i also have a job six days a week with 15 hour shifts

      What, you making shoes for Nike or something?

 
A comedy about the Holocaust set in space might be the new definition of tasteless. Why can't you just make an analogical situation in the future without these blunt references or using names like Jews and Nazis. Make them Vasuldans and NTF and it will be much more pleasing, in tact and not to mention making sense.

  

Offline sgtbeil

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well, if you have a problem, or a bone to pick with the subject i chose, dont play it...simple as that. oh and btw, im back...i uhh kinda got fired