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Offline karajorma

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Re: Campaign pre-release checklist discussion
The list of VPs in the main folder misses the Tango VPs BTW.
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: Campaign pre-release checklist discussion
Fixed.
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14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

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01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

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14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

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Re: Campaign pre-release checklist discussion
As far as about the DDS stuff goes, it doesn't actually mention that DDS is a higher quality format than PCX because it can store 24/32bit color instead of just 8bit.  But that whole section could easily just refer to the other forum posts on texture differences too instead of going into it there.
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Offline FUBAR-BDHR

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Re: Campaign pre-release checklist discussion
Didn't see anything about trying to have a nice clean file set.  Having extra unused files in the VPs not only increases the size of the VP but can cause issues down the road with any updates or other mods that use your mod or TC. 
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Re: Campaign pre-release checklist discussion
Didn't see anything about trying to have a nice clean file set.  Having extra unused files in the VPs not only increases the size of the VP but can cause issues down the road with any updates or other mods that use your mod or TC. 

How typical is this?
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Re: Campaign pre-release checklist discussion
Probably more than you'd think.  I also see releases that have files included in the filesystem itself that should not be released.  So it's not just the files in the VPs but the entire release.
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Offline FUBAR-BDHR

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Re: Campaign pre-release checklist discussion
Not sure but TBP is full of that stuff and it annoys the heck out of me.  Lots of textures in 2, 3 and even 4 formats (yes there is at least one map that has pcx, jpg, tga, and dds versions).  Maps might be quite common as people tend to work with one format then convert to dds.  Things like old lod map versions of updated mods might also get left behind.  

So I guess what I'm saying is it doesn't hurt to point it out.  
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Re: Campaign pre-release checklist discussion
so basicaly create a fresh release directory, copy the needed files into it and convert that into the vp
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Re: Campaign pre-release checklist discussion
Or keep an eye on it as you go along.  But yeah, typically during testing extra files get created by the engine, or used by a modder perhaps, and aren't intended for inclusion, yet people often miss that when making a release.  Heck I accidentally released something with my FS2NetD pass at one point :P
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iamzack:  lays

 

Offline FUBAR-BDHR

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Re: Campaign pre-release checklist discussion
If it's a bigger project svn is good for keeping track.  Only version and commit assets that are to be released or replaced by newer versions.  Haven't tried it myself but I've heard it works for smaller stuff as well without a server. 
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Re: Campaign pre-release checklist discussion
Git makes more sense for small stuff, local setup is much easier to get going.  And it really probably makes a lot more for just about anything compared to SVN.
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Re: Campaign pre-release checklist discussion
 :bump:

One thing just occured to me. It would be a good idea for mod releases to include a list with the following things:
1. A list of the VP checksums, as generated by debug builds
2. A list of the VP file numbers (that is, showing how many files are in the vp), again generated by a debug build
3. A list with MD5 checksums of each VP.

These things can help the support guys to quickly detect VP corruption.
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Re: Campaign pre-release checklist discussion
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23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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