[jonskowitz]

 

Originally posted by Eishtmo:
Of course we could just give the Shivans the beams.  

*Imagines the Bastion going up in smoke in Clash of the Titans*

Maybe not.

I think that was the idea, just model Lucy's beams.

  We can always use SEXP to make certain the GTD Bastion escapes 'Clash of the Titans' intact (well, more or less)  

[Sandwich]

Gosh, it's been so long since I've played FS1 (and my memory is horible for that type of stuff anyway) that I have no recollection of what happens in Clash of the Titans.  

I think that it would be neat if we spruced things up a wee bit, though. For example, we could recreate (or borrow, if someone's already made a hi-quality set of missions) Lt. Ash and his skirmish with the Vasudans, his flight to Station Riviera, and the destruction of that station by the Lucy. I think it would be neat to add-in a bunch of stuff like that wherever appropriate, but to leave the set missions as-is.

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[jonskowitz]

Agreed

[Eishtmo]

Clash of the Titans was third to last mission in the game.  The Lucifer had already jumped, so you had to chase it to the next node.  So as you escort the Bastion, a Demon appears out of nowhere, and you have to cover the Bastion's escape.  Which is why it would be a bad idea to SEXP the ships escape, since the whole point was keeping it alive in the first place.

If we add anything too it, it would be ideas from FS2.  Squadron commanders would be a nice addition, but just one, I want loyalty for gods sake!  There's a few missions between the Command Briefing cutscene and the assualt on the Taranis that we could probably slide in, as well as a few other such places.  I don't think we should have the Ash missions though, in FS1 you were a rookie who joined up after Ash had his encounter.

There is one thing we could consider after the majority of the work is done.  There were a lot of cutscenes that were in the original FS script that were cut for time.  Perhaps we could rebuild those cutscenes as a bonus.

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[Nico]

 

Originally posted by Eishtmo:
Clash of the Titans was third to last mission in the game.  The Lucifer had already jumped, so you had to chase it to the next node.  So as you escort the Bastion, a Demon appears out of nowhere, and you have to cover the Bastion's escape.  Which is why it would be a bad idea to SEXP the ships escape, since the whole point was keeping it alive in the first place.

Clash of the Titans is also the first mission of Hidden terror ( you play it shivan side, of course).

I'm not for adding new missions to the campaign, anyway. But I've read about a project concerning an alternative campaign featuring events related during the main campaign, but which didn't involve the player. Why not making a second campaign out of this?

[jonskowitz]

 

Originally posted by Eishtmo:
Clash of the Titans was third to last mission in the game.  The Lucifer had already jumped, so you had to chase it to the next node.  So as you escort the Bastion, a Demon appears out of nowhere, and you have to cover the Bastion's escape.  Which is why it would be a bad idea to SEXP the ships escape, since the whole point was keeping it alive in the first place.

You're right, but since the Demons were never depicted as having beam weapons then thre should be no balance issues with giving Lucy hers.

 

There is one thing we could consider after the majority of the work is done.  There were a lot of cutscenes that were in the original FS script that were cut for time.  Perhaps we could rebuild those cutscenes as a bonus.

Now you're talking about some serious work, as well as the perfect justification to the project...  It would also make the 'Command Briefing' cutscene seem less out of place.

[Bishop Gantry]

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[Sandwich]

 

Originally posted by Eishtmo:
There is one thing we could consider after the majority of the work is done.  There were a lot of cutscenes that were in the original FS script that were cut for time.  Perhaps we could rebuild those cutscenes as a bonus.

What cutscenes were those? And where?


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[jonskowitz]

  He's reffering to the 'Freespace Reference Bible'.  You can find it on the Descent Developer's Network (I think...)

[Eishtmo]

They're in the Freespace Reference Bible.  They include the following:

Several cutscenes in a bar (including a bar fight, I believe).
GNN news scenes.
Terran and Vasudans reps meeting to discuss peace.
The destruction of Tombaugh Station.
Command brief, talks about the Lucifer and the likelyhood of finding Earth.
Welcome aboard the Bastion Command Brief.
Command brief, discovering the Ancients (basically the Command Briefing of the same idea).
Lucifer wastes Earth (alt finale).

There's like three bar scenes, and the news ones were latched on to a bunch of the others.  And it would be a buttload of work, but if it could be done, it would truly be great.

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[Unidan]

What's the URL?

[Nico]

there's pics of those cutscenes at the descent network

[Sandwich]

 

Originally posted by Unidan:
What's the URL?

...of the FS2 Reference Bible. Anyone?



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[jonskowitz]

Found it!  It's at
 http://www.volition-inc.com/fs/downloads.cfm

[Vertigo1]

Downloading now.  

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[Setekh]

 

Originally posted by Eishtmo:
They're in the Freespace Reference Bible.  They include the following:

Several cutscenes in a bar (including a bar fight, I believe).
GNN news scenes.
Terran and Vasudans reps meeting to discuss peace.
The destruction of Tombaugh Station.
Command brief, talks about the Lucifer and the likelyhood of finding Earth.
Welcome aboard the Bastion Command Brief.
Command brief, discovering the Ancients (basically the Command Briefing of the same idea).
Lucifer wastes Earth (alt finale).

Yeah, I read the scripts for those in the Reference Bible. Highly cool. Especially the destruction of Tombaugh, that would be Hella sweet.

[Eishtmo]

Don't I know it.  I even named that destroyer.  It's the Reliant in my Great War story.

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[Kellan]

Arriving late, here's my $0.02.  

I think that a purist version of FS1 is the best, at least in terms of ships and weapons. I'm not so bothered about interfece art etc, but it would be cool to see.

However, that won't exactly be difficult, so I think that the main campaign could either be expanded upon, or other events of the Great War presented in other campaigns. These might include the Intrepid's journey, Operation Thresher, what happened to the Bastion before you joined it, etc.

[Darkage]

Idea:

Why not convert all the shivan fighters and bombers for player use and play the main FS1 campaign as a shivan.

Or the same but then whit the FS2 main campaign.

How does that sound?

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[Nico]

all shivan fighters are already converted. remember HT?