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Title: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: Lc4Hunter on May 02, 2015, 12:26:54 am
Hey there  :)

I would like to present my Vesuvius model to you :nod:
As you can see the model isnt finished yet, but its on a good way.

There is not much to say to the model...
It uses a dew (modified) parts of the Saga-ships, like the turrets, the engines or the hangar, which is a modified version of the Yorktowns hangar.
currently it seems there should be 2k-maps enough for the textures, but we´ll see - there are still a few untextured places (as you can see  ;7 )

(http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150502/temp/8cuukvb3.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3975/8cuukvb3_jpg.htm) (http://fs1.directupload.net/images/150502/temp/9asmpk4a.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3975/9asmpk4a_jpg.htm) (http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150502/temp/ri8by3f9.jpg) (http://www.directupload.net/file/d/3975/ri8by3f9_jpg.htm)

I have two questions to you, guys, maybe Tolwyn is also reading this:
1. Can someone help me to get the Ship ingame?
2. Does anyone exactly know HOW the Saga-Team created their textures? I tried to recreate the style they use but it is still not the same quality  :(

Best regards,
Hunter
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: X3N0-Life-Form on May 02, 2015, 03:59:24 am
1) Sure, you can have a look at the various modding resources (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=70249.0), and more specifically the ship-building tutorial (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=84335.0), which covers all aspects of getting a ship into the game. There's plenty of people around here who can help you through any problem you encounter along the way.

2) I seem to recall that they got a lot of their hull textures off a third party website with all kinds of metallic textures, but I'm not 100% sure. Anyway, maybe some of the actual Saga modders around can help you.
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: Lorric on May 02, 2015, 11:27:13 am
You'll probably have to PM the Saga guys if you want to get hold of them. They haven't been here for a very long time. Tolwyn hasn't logged in in over 2 years.

Or you could try talking to them on their forum:

http://www.wcsaga.com/forum/
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 02, 2015, 01:54:35 pm
I'll shoot tolwyn a message on Facebook.
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: Lc4Hunter on May 03, 2015, 04:49:10 am
If you have any chance to contact him, it would be great!  Thanks man! ;)
I already tried via WCSaga Homepage but got no response...
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: FekLeyrTarg on May 03, 2015, 10:05:30 am
If I recall correctly, most Saga-models, including capships, were built and textured by ScoobyDoo.
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: Deathsnake on May 03, 2015, 11:29:49 am
Yes, all the Saga Capships are from Scooby Doo.

The textures and the ship look nice. But make it bigger - The Confederation Class in Saga is 1500m Long. The Vesuvius could easy be 2000m in size compare to the others.
Just copy the Windows from the Jutland, Confederation - Scooby uses on all ships the same.

Hangarbay - I did not see yours - I like the Jutland Style but with more bays then on the Vesu.
If you can send me a POF Version and I try to make the table for you.

Ah now I remember you :D
https://youtu.be/3EvBwCB0abA
Great work ;)
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: Dragon on May 03, 2015, 05:33:27 pm
According to WCNews, the Vesuvius is 1600m long. It lists the Confederation as just about under 1000m long, though. Given that, about 2000m sounds plausible.
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: Lc4Hunter on May 03, 2015, 11:25:53 pm
Thats a good Information with ScoobyDoo. I will try to contact him.

The size of my model of the Vesuvius is scaled to 1600m which is the size i have read multiple times.
Scaling her up a little more should be possible - but this also means some more modifacation because the Saga-hangarbay fits very well at the moment. But we'll see :)
I Hope someone from the Saga-Team will give me the allowness to use the parts you can already see. All in all i dont think it will be a problem because the ship is build as an addition to Saga.
I think a lot of people would like to fly a Mission for/against the vesuvius :D
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: Deathsnake on May 04, 2015, 12:51:57 am
Yea, but the Saga Team uses not cannon size. The fighters are smaller (Hellcat 19m, Longbow 28m) and the Yorktown is 870m, the Bengal I have from Scooby are 1200m also the Lexington, Confederation 1500m) for Gameplay and not crashing in much smaller hangarbay :D

And here is one to Play with the Vesuvius :D

(http://abload.de/img/screen0000jjub6.jpg)
joining my Operation Serpent Confed Fleet :D
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 05, 2015, 02:48:25 am
If you have any chance to contact him, it would be great!  Thanks man! ;)
I already tried via WCSaga Homepage but got no response...

He said he'll get back to you  :yes:
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: Lc4Hunter on May 09, 2015, 12:56:49 am
Till now: Nothing  :blah:
Also i got no response from ScoobyDoo, but he should have noticed my message.
Well, so i have
The basic textures are nearly finished for now and i was able to put everything on two 2k maps.

I will try to upload the model to p3d later (currently i´m at work), then you can take a look on and hopefully you like her  :nod:
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: Colonol Dekker on May 09, 2015, 03:29:07 am
He's currently jet setting around the world it seems. But he did get back to me and said he'd look into it so just be patient and maybe pop him the enquiry by PM too as a prompt.  :yes:
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: Deathsnake on May 09, 2015, 05:04:07 am
Nice to hear ;)

But I don't think there are Problems. Starman01 - an Ex Saga Dev build back a few ships and using Scoobys assets. But never be released :/ Otherwise we could already work with WC4 Models and even 2 Prophecy ships:

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php?topic=71822.msg1419409#msg1419409
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: Lc4Hunter on May 09, 2015, 01:02:25 pm
Wanted to upload the model at p3d, but there i can´t add textures so i used sketcfab but the forum does not support it :(

So i just can give you this link: https://skfb.ly/E8zM
(my first upload there, not everything is "perfect") at the moment  :nono:
Title: Re: [Ship] TCS Vesuvius
Post by: Deathsnake on May 09, 2015, 01:07:54 pm
Very nice work :)