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Re: Homeworld Remastered Collection pre-order up on Steam release 25 feb
Homeworld - the original, not so much the sequel - is an amazing game, Klaus, and you owe it to yourself to play it.
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Re: Homeworld Remastered Collection pre-order up on Steam release 25 feb
"not so much the sequel?"
and what do you mean by that *accusative stare*
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Re: Homeworld Remastered Collection pre-order up on Steam release 25 feb
Homeworld was groundbreaking.  Homeworld 2 was... a bit of a letdown, frankly.  Good, yes; nowhere near as good as the original.
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Re: Homeworld Remastered Collection pre-order up on Steam release 25 feb
Homeworld was certainly groundbreaking, and I really wish more games existed that used those sort of mechanics (3D movement and the sort of nomad base concept by building out of ships rather than static base structures), but I still think HW2 improves on the mechanics quite well, even if the campaign story wasn't as strong.
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Needs more Cataclysm.
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Indeed.
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Needs more Cataclysm.

Don't even talk about it. I'm trying to be amnesiac regarding that game, pretend it didn't exist so I can appreciate this release without melancholy.

 

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Re: Homeworld Remastered Collection pre-order up on Steam release 25 feb
Cataclysm was developed by long gone Barking Dog Studios and its source code was lost. So apparently there is no deal to be struck in order to get it remastered.

 

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Re: Homeworld Remastered Collection pre-order up on Steam release 25 feb
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Re: Homeworld Remastered Collection pre-order up on Steam release 25 feb
Homeworld 2 certainly had the better engine (hence why the Remastered project is based off of its source code), but unmodded, HW2 is nowhere near as good a game as the original. It's a real shame the originally-planned Dust Wars campaign never happened.
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Re: Homeworld Remastered Collection pre-order up on Steam release 25 feb
Shipbreakers yo.
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Re: Homeworld Remastered Collection pre-order up on Steam release 25 feb
I haven't heard anything about that lately.  What's up with it?
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Re: Homeworld Remastered Collection pre-order up on Steam release 25 feb
Cataclysm was developed by long gone Barking Dog Studios and its source code was lost. So apparently there is no deal to be struck in order to get it remastered.

I think if they really wanted to, it wouldn't be too difficult. Gearbox already basically redid all the graphical assets for 1 and 2, redoing those for Cataclysm shouldn't be too hard. The audio and video files should be readily available on any retail disk. If GB had the rights to redo Cataclysm (and assets), there's really nothing to stop them, besides motivation. It's basically a total conversion for HW1 anyway. (I know now really, but nothing beyond the talents of Gearbox coders, I'm sure)
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Re: Homeworld Remastered Collection pre-order up on Steam release 25 feb
Yes, the issue is, as always, IP shenanigans. Bah.

 

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I wonder just who's the owner of Cataclysm IP now. There must be someone to strike a deal with. If that was done, I don't think there's anything preventing the remake on the technical side.

 
Re: Homeworld Remastered Collection pre-order up on Steam release 25 feb
remember what happened with system shock?
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I think if they really wanted to, it wouldn't be too difficult. Gearbox already basically redid all the graphical assets for 1 and 2, redoing those for Cataclysm shouldn't be too hard.
Well, making them look good would be near impossible.

 

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I think if they really wanted to, it wouldn't be too difficult. Gearbox already basically redid all the graphical assets for 1 and 2, redoing those for Cataclysm shouldn't be too hard.
Well, making them look good would be near impossible.

They made the Taiidan destroyer look good. That was a painfully basic model and textures. Compared to that, it would be easy to make a Swarmer Frigate look good. The Cata models in general lend themselves to curved shapes that will look much better on modern systems than they did back then.
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Yeah I also don't quite get that comment. It's obviously super easy to make them look good. Aesaar you are an expert at HLPin older ships it should be obvious to you.