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Title: HTL Angel?
Post by: lefkos on May 13, 2007, 04:51:17 am
goodmorning.
i am making a campagne with the angel as standard fighters for its fleet.
maybe you guessed my question already but is there somewere an HTL Angel that i can use?
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Snail on May 13, 2007, 05:15:26 am
(http://inferno.hard-light.net/AngelScout.jpg)

This one?

Drool and praise me. ;7
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: lefkos on May 13, 2007, 05:29:53 am
(http://inferno.hard-light.net/AngelScout.jpg)

This one?

Drool and praise me. ;7
MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
  :jaw: DAMN ITS DAMN PRETTY WERE CAN I GET IT?!?!(atleast if its possible to download or get)

haha lol :lol:
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: jr2 on May 13, 2007, 05:52:02 am
FSPort, IIRC.  FreeSpace Conversion (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,39.0.html) thread.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: lefkos on May 13, 2007, 06:13:18 am
FSPort, IIRC.  FreeSpace Conversion (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/board,39.0.html) thread.
thanks :) found it
oops sorry that was another ship  :ick:
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Herra Tohtori on May 13, 2007, 07:08:53 am
Damn, that texture seems to suck more and more every time I see it... :lol: Especially the wings.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Solatar on May 13, 2007, 12:06:57 pm
Trying to dig up that Angel, but I can't seem to locate it. I got a cock-pitted one from Inferno: Alliance, but it doesn't seem to be the same one as in that picture above.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: jr2 on May 13, 2007, 01:43:23 pm
Did you check in FSPort?
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: lefkos on May 13, 2007, 02:07:05 pm
i cant find it either.. :(
maybe 1 of you know the link of that topic?
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Solatar on May 13, 2007, 02:07:45 pm
Did you check in FSPort?
Yeah, I even redownloaded the latest version to make sure (version 3.0.4). It's got the lo-poly one in there. Also, Inferno: Alliance HTL pack has a cockpitted version of the lo-poly one. I'm just kinda confused as to where I can obtain the one in the picture in this thread (if it's even available for download).
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: jr2 on May 13, 2007, 02:14:45 pm
Threaten Snail with NaCl :lol:
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Solatar on May 13, 2007, 02:17:02 pm
With Iodine!  :D

So it's probably not available for download? Too bad.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: lefkos on May 13, 2007, 02:20:00 pm
With Iodine!  :D

So it's probably not available for download? Too bad.
too bad indeed  :(
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Solatar on May 13, 2007, 02:22:29 pm
Well, Lefkos, if you want a cockpitted version the Inferno: Alliance one isn't too bad. You'll have to adjust the eyepoint if you want to fly with it though. HTL Pack: http://inferno.hard-light.net/SOL/download1.html
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: jr2 on May 13, 2007, 02:23:13 pm
Snail got it from someplace... unless he got it from his internal INF access, then it should be available.  Besides, he can upload it.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Dysko on May 13, 2007, 02:28:54 pm
That hi-poly Angel should be available with the release of INFA Standalone.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Solatar on May 13, 2007, 02:37:12 pm
I've been out of the loop for some time, and I've come back and all these projects I thought were dead are releasing stuff. INFA Standalone has not been released yet, correct?
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: jr2 on May 13, 2007, 02:39:38 pm
Would this be in the HTL pack downloadable here (http://inferno.hard-light.net/SOL/download1.html)?
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Solatar on May 13, 2007, 02:44:00 pm
No, that's just a cockpitted version of the lo-poly model, not the one in the pic.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: lefkos on May 13, 2007, 02:47:21 pm
Well, Lefkos, if you want a cockpitted version the Inferno: Alliance one isn't too bad. You'll have to adjust the eyepoint if you want to fly with it though. HTL Pack: http://inferno.hard-light.net/SOL/download1.html
thanks its better than the one without the cockpit downloading ;)
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Woomeister on May 13, 2007, 04:00:09 pm
The HTL one pictured is for the next INFA release and has not been released yet.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Solatar on May 13, 2007, 06:03:30 pm
Oh, well that's fine then. Means I'm not just too stupid to find it.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Nico on May 13, 2007, 06:37:32 pm
Will I be slapped to death if I say I hate these inflated engines and cockpit with the nose turned into a small beak? :ick:
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Solatar on May 13, 2007, 06:44:31 pm
The engines I wouldn't mind being changed, and the tip of the nose I can also agree with you on. It's actually the cockpit itself which I find so good looking. The way its laid out just looks good.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: jr2 on May 14, 2007, 01:14:48 am
I think oversized engines are good, but I don't like the way the Angel's engines are pointed outwards.  I pretty much agree with both posts above.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Black Wolf on May 14, 2007, 05:38:54 am
I think it might be worth waiting for VA to release the final HTL Valkyrie before worrying too much about a proper HTL Angel. You'll have a much nicer base to work from if nothing else.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Woomeister on May 14, 2007, 10:37:16 am
Actually that Angel is based off VAs HTL Valkyrie mesh.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Nico on May 15, 2007, 04:03:55 am
What, there's still no HTL valkyrie released? :/ Someone give me a 3ds file of it :mad:

edit: oh, and the max and maps files for the cockpit, coz I've lost everything FS2 related I did :shaking:
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Col. Fishguts on May 15, 2007, 04:53:57 am
edit: oh, and the max and maps files for the cockpit, coz I've lost everything FS2 related I did :shaking:

Thar she blows! (http://n.ethz.ch/student/ebuerli/download/terrancockpit.rar)
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on May 15, 2007, 05:47:15 am
Well I have no idea what's sparked the sudden obsession with the Valkyrie & Angel recently, but I'm going as fast as I can already! :p

(http://sectorgame.com/ti-file-dump/VasudanAdmiral/Pics/Valkyrie/ValkWIP1.jpg)

The Angel pictured on the front page was made by Woomeister out of one of the HTL Uglies I released in the Zeus release thread, and that was in turn was made out of parts from this HTL Valkyrie that I'm still building. Make sense? ;)
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Nico on May 15, 2007, 06:36:53 am
Hey, that's pretty nice. Well I don't need to make one then, just complete it already :p

edit: goddamn my pilot is awful, I can't believe people still use it, it was just a placeholder originally...
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Alikchi on May 15, 2007, 10:08:56 am

The Angel pictured on the front page was made by Woomeister out of one of the HTL Uglies I released in the Zeus release thread, and that was in turn was made out of parts from this HTL Valkyrie that I'm still building. Make sense? ;)

The HTL Uglies were released? I thought you just put out screenshots.. are they done, then?
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Woomeister on May 15, 2007, 11:06:50 am
Hey, that's pretty nice. Well I don't need to make one then, just complete it already :p

Do the Ulysses then, no-one seems to want to touch that one :D
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: ShivanSpS on May 15, 2007, 06:18:09 pm
Hey, that's pretty nice. Well I don't need to make one then, just complete it already :p

edit: goddamn my pilot is awful, I can't believe people still use it, it was just a placeholder originally...

You can HTL the Ully, the Anubis, the Seth(icant remember if has been already hi poly), the Amun, the Osiris, the Shaitan, the Scorpion, the Thoth, the Tauret, the Sekhmet, the Bakha.... there is a lot of ships to HTL yet :P i forgot some one?

and about an HTL Angel, this is what i using so far... an high textured Angel, which the cockpit from INF:A...

it will be a good base to estar from if someone whiling to make it hi poly...

(http://i13.tinypic.com/4m85svs.jpg)

(http://i16.tinypic.com/6ajxesn.jpg)

Download:
http://files.filefront.com/high_angelzip/;7518820;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/high_angelzip/;7518820;/fileinfo.html)

All credits go to the original creators... Herra Tohtori for the textures and Nico team for the cockpit...
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on May 16, 2007, 01:56:12 am
The HTL Uglies were released? I thought you just put out screenshots.. are they done, then?
Yeah, but the links in the Zeus thread are down while the FTP isn't working on Sectorgame. Here: http://webzoom.freewebs.com/twisted-infinities-va/MiscStuff/HTL%5FUglies%5FV1.0.rar

edit: goddamn my pilot is awful, I can't believe people still use it, it was just a placeholder originally...
Actually, I did have a go at....errm....well....HTLing the HTL cockpit essentially. :\
Textured (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/VA--Twisted_Infinities/Misc/CockpitLods1.jpg)
Untextured (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/VA--Twisted_Infinities/Misc/CockpitLods2.jpg)
Rendered view (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/VA--Twisted_Infinities/Misc/CockpitView.jpg)

What I've set up in the uglies, Zeus, Loki and this Valkyrie is a detail box system so the high poly cockpit is only drawn within decent view range. Otherwise a slightly modified version of your original is used.

(The high detail one uses your texture with some extra parts gleaned from some other angles in the cockpit pics of the descent network, so it keeps compatability with the fighters that only use your original. :)

To be honest it's not a great system. I feel it's too low poly to be used as a good in-cockpit view, and too high poly for anything else. :\
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: S-99 on May 16, 2007, 04:00:47 am
What's with the pointed fighter? Pointed flying vehicles are so going the way of the dodo. Not for cosmetic reasons, airplanes that go the speed of sound can actually reduce sonic boom to a mere a thud sound if you have more of a blunt nose on the plane. Not to mention that stupid point makes the damn angel look like a flying duck.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Nico on May 16, 2007, 06:00:57 am

You can HTL the Ully, the Anubis, the Seth(icant remember if has been already hi poly), the Amun, the Osiris, the Shaitan, the Scorpion, the Thoth, the Tauret, the Sekhmet, the Bakha.... there is a lot of ships to HTL yet :P i forgot some one?
Well, I could have a go at the scorpion or the tauret, but the deal would be that I was provided a 3ds or max version of them, retaining the original UV maps, and that someone else converts it, coz I never could be bothered with conversion, it's not my thing
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All credits go to the original creators... Herra Tohtori for the textures and INF:A team for the cockpit...

Well, sorry to *****, but the credits for the cockpit should go to me, they just put it in there. I like Woomeister and all, but it freaken pisses me off to see how many models of mine are in Inferno, and how many people credit him or his staff, when I was the one who did them :hopping:

What's with the pointed fighter? .... Not to mention that stupid point makes the damn angel look like a flying duck.

Blame me for that, I'm the one who made the first angel. Seems there's a new one floating around, though frankly I can't tell the difference with mine... As for the design, well, dunno, I don't remember who requested it, but I just took up the Valkyrie model, changed a couple things (according to the ship's description in FS1) and said "hop! done". Call it lazyness if you want, I'd rather call it... hmm... reflex modeling :D

Actually, I did have a go at....errm....well....HTLing the HTL cockpit essentially. :\
Textured (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/VA--Twisted_Infinities/Misc/CockpitLods1.jpg)
Untextured (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/VA--Twisted_Infinities/Misc/CockpitLods2.jpg)
Rendered view (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y184/VA--Twisted_Infinities/Misc/CockpitView.jpg)

What I've set up in the uglies, Zeus, Loki and this Valkyrie is a detail box system so the high poly cockpit is only drawn within decent view range. Otherwise a slightly modified version of your original is used.
About goddamn time, nice initiative :)

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(The high detail one uses your texture with some extra parts gleaned from some other angles in the cockpit pics of the descent network, so it keeps compatability with the fighters that only use your original. :)

Well actually, I left space on that map so it could be shared with a vasudan cockpit, but yeah, why not :)
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Col. Fishguts on May 16, 2007, 06:14:05 am
Ah, I always wondered why you did leave all that space unused. I've used it to map some additional parts I added to make a 2-seater cockpit out of it. But it seems VA beat me to releasing such a thing  ...curse him and his lightning fast modeling/mapping ;)
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Woomeister on May 16, 2007, 11:16:02 am

Well, sorry to *****, but the credits for the cockpit should go to me, they just put it in there. I like Woomeister and all, but it freaken pisses me off to see how many models of mine are in Inferno, and how many people credit him or his staff, when I was the one who did them :hopping:
That's because no-one seems to bother reading credit lists...


Blame me for that, I'm the one who made the first angel. Seems there's a new one floating around, though frankly I can't tell the difference with mine... As for the design, well, dunno, I don't remember who requested it, but I just took up the Valkyrie model, changed a couple things (according to the ship's description in FS1) and said "hop! done". Call it lazyness if you want, I'd rather call it... hmm... reflex modeling :D

No there's still only your version as far as I've seen. That low poly cockpitted one is a modified version of yours that I made for the first INFA release, and the HTL one I made for INFASA that images were posted of at the start was based off VA's HTL Valkyrie mesh but was designed to match your original model, since most people use it as the standard Angel.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Nico on May 16, 2007, 11:58:54 am
1) yeah, don't worry, I've never seen you take credits for other people's stuff, I never remotly blamed you, and either ay I wouldn't care so much that I'd annoy you with that.

2) mmh, I'm pretty sure I've seen someone saying the Angel was his job. With what you say, I assume it's a lie but, hey, if he wanna claim this half-assed job for himself, he can be my guest.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: lefkos on May 16, 2007, 01:40:36 pm


Well, sorry to *****, but the credits for the cockpit should go to me, they just put it in there. I like Woomeister and all, but it freaken pisses me off to see how many models of mine are in Inferno, and how many people credit him or his staff, when I was the one who did them :hopping:
That's because no-one seems to bother reading credit lists...
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well i do..
really sometimes if i know  the original creators i wanna learn from them i really wanna learn from the creator of the warlock super carrier !! :cool:
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Woomeister on May 16, 2007, 01:49:11 pm
Both versions of the Warlock carrier were made by Aldo.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: lefkos on May 16, 2007, 03:44:24 pm
Both versions of the Warlock carrier were made by Aldo.
i didnt knew there were 2 versions?
do you mean a lowpoly and highpoly :D!!
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Solatar on May 16, 2007, 04:43:12 pm
Pretty sure there are two versions of the Angel texture. One that's white looking and one that matches the Valkyrie. Might that have something to do with it?
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Nico on May 17, 2007, 04:38:55 am
The brighter version of the valkyrie map is also from me, iirc.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Woomeister on May 17, 2007, 10:34:21 am
Not the one used on either of the INFA versions, but the original Angel maps was the one you produced, but it was from the low res map pf the Valkyrie.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Nico on May 17, 2007, 11:30:57 am
I didn't use the high res maps from FS1? how come :confused:
Ah well, never mind, I don't care anyway.

Anyway S-99 is right, it could use a redesign, not because what he said (they're spaceships, who gives a **** about aerodynamics? :doubt: ) but because yeah, it's not very inspired.
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: ShivanSpS on May 17, 2007, 04:32:57 pm
Well, sorry to *****, but the credits for the cockpit should go to me, they just put it in there. I like Woomeister and all, but it freaken pisses me off to see how many models of mine are in Inferno, and how many people credit him or his staff, when I was the one who did them :hopping:

Well, ok is just a mistake eh... i already fixed it :P
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: ShivanSpS on July 09, 2007, 11:02:29 pm
oh i have changed the uploaded angel.vp... i noticed that the old one dont have an blueglow.pcx :P

http://files.filefront.com/angelvp/;8009223;;/fileinfo.html (http://files.filefront.com/angelvp/;8009223;;/fileinfo.html)
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Alikchi on July 09, 2007, 11:10:58 pm
The HTL Uglies were released? I thought you just put out screenshots.. are they done, then?
Yeah, but the links in the Zeus thread are down while the FTP isn't working on Sectorgame. Here: http://webzoom.freewebs.com/twisted-infinities-va/MiscStuff/HTL%5FUglies%5FV1.0.rar


Thanks!
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: lefkos on July 10, 2007, 09:28:08 am
where are the table files? of the uglies?
Title: Re: HTL Angel?
Post by: Vasudan Admiral on July 10, 2007, 11:14:36 am
Should be in the rar file there - Uglies-shp.tbm