[Commander Zane]

Fixed the glows and fixed the cockpit. This is the current cockpit view:



any more requests before I update the download?

WHERE DID YOU GET COCKPITS?!?! I WANT THIS SO BAD NOW!!!

[Commander Zane]

Oh, umm...how do I put it into the game?

[Turey]

Oh, umm...how do I put it into the game?

.pcx and .tga go in C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps\data\maps

.pof go in C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps\data\models

.ani go in C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps\data\hud

.tbm go in C:\Games\FreeSpace2\mediavps\data\tables

[Commander Zane]

I...don't have anything past the mediavps folder...do I make them?

[Turey]

I...don't have anything past the mediavps folder...do I make them?

yes.

[Commander Zane]

I put the files in the places you said to put them in, but they didn't show up on the Tech Room, do I only do one Athena ship at a time?

[Turey]

I put the files in the places you said to put them in, but they didn't show up on the Tech Room, do I only do one Athena ship at a time?

Make sure you have mediavps selected as your mod, and that you use ctrl + Shift + s to see all the ships.

[Commander Zane]

Is there any way to select them for a mission? I don't see it in the FRED Editor, so I can't put it on the loadout screen.

[Pnakotus]

You've clearly installed them wrong.  Did you select the mediavps folder as a mod?

Shouldn't there be documentation for all this somewhere?

[StratComm]

Kara's FAQ.  The Wiki.  But this goes back to the lack-of-centralized-documentation issue that's come up in modding.

It has to be in tables to show up in FRED.  Either the modular table is FUBAR'd and just doesn't work, or isn't placed in [mod]/tables (or you could use it in the Port).  Or more likely, you don't have FRED set up to use mods, which is another subject of frustration.  I know creating a shortcut and adding "-mod [modname]" to the target works, and six months ago when I last changed those settings that was the only way that was reliable.

[Commander Zane]

I had it selected as a mod but I couldn't check on FRED because of this HTL conflict, I tried adding the extra stuff to the target but I don't know exactly show the target name should appear.

[TrashMan]

Try the following:

.pcx and .tga go in C:\Games\FreeSpace2\data\maps

.pof go in C:\Games\FreeSpace2\data\models

.ani go in C:\Games\FreeSpace2\data\hud


.tbm go in C:\Games\FreeSpace2\data\tables (If you DL'ed the modular tables. I can't remember if the tables included were modular)

If all else fails you can extract the ship.tbl (using VPView you put it in the tables folder, if you havn't allready) and just copy/paste the Athena ship data in it.

[Commander Zane]

Well I've already done that, but I want to know if they show up on FRED, like I said, I can't look myself because it won't load because of some HTL thing and it wants me to add something to the FRED target on properties and all that.

And how to add the stuff on the target and what the target should look like.

[Turey]

Well I've already done that, but I want to know if they show up on FRED, like I said, I can't look myself because it won't load because of some HTL thing and it wants me to add something to the FRED target on properties and all that.

And how to add the stuff on the target and what the target should look like.

It won't load because you're trying to load an HTL model with out -htl. But let's address the bigger problem first.

Contrary to TrashMan's assertion, it is a BAD IDEA to put HTL models in /data. That will break retail, and won't let you run with default graphics.

All HTL models should go in mediavps. End of story.

Now, make a shortcut to FRED. Right-click on it and select properties. find the Target box. go to the end of the target box, and add
-mod mediavps -htl

so it should look like this:
"(path)\(fred exe name)" -mod mediavps -htl

then run the shortcut.

[Pnakotus]

AHAHAHA!  'It'll break retail'?  WHO CARES?  Aside from the nostalgic minority or those with truly old computers, who wants to play retail?  Not only do I not have any interest in playing ugly stupid lowres retail, but there's no reason to (troubleshooting, etc).  Mercy. 

[Turey]

AHAHAHA!  'It'll break retail'?  WHO CARES?  Aside from the nostalgic minority or those with truly old computers, who wants to play retail?  Not only do I not have any interest in playing ugly stupid lowres retail, but there's no reason to (troubleshooting, etc).  Mercy. 

The point is that you shouldn't break retail if you don't have to.

Also, putting it in /data will make it so that it is not used, as it will be overridden by the one in the mediavps. putting it into /mediavps/data makes it work correctly.

[Commander Zane]

Adding -mod mediavps -htl didn't work either, this is bringing back the Unreal Editor nightmares...

I noticed that Scooby Doo's ships are .VPs, but these two aren't. Why is that?

[Turey]

Adding -mod mediavps -htl didn't work either, this is bringing back the Unreal Editor nightmares...

I noticed that Scooby Doo's ships are .VPs, but these two aren't. Why is that?

Because Scooby is noob-friendly.

Seriously, it's because this IS in a vp. It's called mv_models.vp

[Commander Zane]

Adding -mod mediavps -htl didn't work either, this is bringing back the Unreal Editor nightmares...

I noticed that Scooby Doo's ships are .VPs, but these two aren't. Why is that?

noob-friendly.

There's my problem...can't get a single thing working without step-by-step instructions with steps in the steps themselves before figuring out what to do...

[TrashMan]

Adding -mod mediavps -htl didn't work either, this is bringing back the Unreal Editor nightmares...

I noticed that Scooby Doo's ships are .VPs, but these two aren't. Why is that?

FRED dosn't work? What version are you running?

Was it working properly before you tried any changes?

And I bleive someone posted two fixed .tbms for hte Athenas (can't recall if I put them in the download)..it in this thread in somoens signature