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Hosted Projects - FS2 Required => FreeSpace Conversion => Topic started by: FUBAR-BDHR on December 05, 2010, 04:04:09 pm

Title: Bugs, Bugs & more bugs............
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on December 05, 2010, 04:04:09 pm
Can someone please test stuff before release.  I get more standalone crashes from FSPort then anything else and 99% of them are due to bad data.  Things that would easily be caught by just test loading the models running debug in the lab or in a mission, or loading the missions in debug FRED.   Some are FSPort, some are with the Port MVPs.  There is no mantis for FSPort and the FSPort-MediaVP Mantis is rarely looked at. 
Title: Re: Bugs, Bugs & more bugs............
Post by: mjn.mixael on December 05, 2010, 04:51:15 pm
Assumptions, assumptions & more assumptions........


Care to elaborate what bugs you are getting? Cause I have played through FSPort AND ST:R before release. I have also played each of those through several times since as well as Templar and Vasudan Imperium with no problems.

Thanks for assuming we don't know what we are doing. Now why don't you tell us what your problems are so we can try to help.

Thanks for playing.
Title: Re: Bugs, Bugs & more bugs............
Post by: General Battuta on December 05, 2010, 04:58:23 pm
FUBAR's probably right, because he's FUBAR. I know The_E has been complaining about the difficulty of doing any tech support for FSPort. This may be worth looking at.
Title: Re: Bugs, Bugs & more bugs............
Post by: The E on December 05, 2010, 05:02:30 pm
To be honest, my main complaint in that regard is that there's no quick lookup-table for the FSPort vp crc's and file numbers (like there is for the mediavps).

MjnMixael: Please consider the source before dismissing him like that. FUBAR runs the standalone servers, and if his servers are crashing due to bad data, he should be listened to.
Title: Re: Bugs, Bugs & more bugs............
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on December 05, 2010, 05:34:29 pm
Assumptions, assumptions & more assumptions........


Care to elaborate what bugs you are getting? Cause I have played through FSPort AND ST:R before release. I have also played each of those through several times since as well as Templar and Vasudan Imperium with no problems.

Thanks for assuming we don't know what we are doing. Now why don't you tell us what your problems are so we can try to help.

Thanks for playing.

Do you test those missions in debug builds?  I highly doubt it or the first time you hit a mission that contains fighter02.pof or freighter01.pof you would receive warnings and errors.  While people may be able to simply skip through these an unmanned server can't.  I've also just hit the second mission(MDH-03.fs2) that contains weapon Leech in the loadout.  That weapon doesn't even exist.  Simply loading the missions in debug FRED would tell you that.  Then there is capital02.pof which was fixed then unfixed.  Not sure if it's status right now. 
Title: Re: Bugs, Bugs & more bugs............
Post by: mjn.mixael on December 05, 2010, 09:03:34 pm
MjnMixael: Please consider the source before dismissing him like that. FUBAR runs the standalone servers, and if his servers are crashing due to bad data, he should be listened to.

I'd consider the source if it gave specifics. Just making a topic to complain about generic bugs doesn't get ANYTHING done. Now that he has told us his issues, not only can we DO something about it, but we also have a place to look.

Or maybe next time I have a tech support issue, I'll just make a topic that says "my FS2 doesn't work" and leave it at that.

EDIT: I need to apologize. I got frustrated that FUBAR created a topic about things that are wrong and didn't give us anything else to work with. I absolutely believed from the start that he was running into issues, but his post just made it sound like we are a bunch of idiots with an unworkable mod and it wasn't even worth telling us what was going on. So with that, I'm sorry.
Title: Re: Bugs, Bugs & more bugs............
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on December 05, 2010, 09:33:58 pm
Well if I didn't inform FSPort members on IRC about them and file them in mantis already I would have provided specifics here.  So it's not that I didn't provide specifics I just didn't do so in this thread.  Just a little pissed that everyone seems to pass the buck or ignore the info given. 

An easy way to avoid such things is to set up a dang mantis or convert the existing one to include FSPort as well as the FSPort-MVPs and get someone to actually check it. 
Title: Re: Bugs, Bugs & more bugs............
Post by: Goober5000 on December 05, 2010, 09:36:45 pm
That Leech bug was found and fixed a while ago.  But I'm not sure whether a new release of the Port has happened since then.

Also, it would be helpful to narrow down whether these are Port-specific or PortMVP-specific bugs.  I'm pretty sure that a number of unresolved PortMVP bugs still exist.

EDIT: It looks like I'm not an administrator on the HLP Mantis.  If I were, I could create a new FSPort-specific project, as well as set up bug notifications for FSPort members.
Title: Re: Bugs, Bugs & more bugs............
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on December 05, 2010, 09:50:24 pm
Was the leach bug fixed in all missions?  I have a fixed version of another one.  

I only run the FSPort-MVPs on the standalone but I have confirmed some of these in FSPort as well.  

Oh and I just double checked and you are an admin on HLP Mantis.  You, Fury, and Kara.  Probably should add Rev to that.