[Asuko]

Hmm, now that I think of it, it's true. Try it out, the worst that would happen is you have to pay $2 more.

[IceyJones]

there are dozends of software-packages available on the market.....AND SOME ARE FREE!!!!!

try:
- blender
- wings

you also can download DEMO-VERSIONS of EVERY commercial software. these demo-versions are FULLY functional in the most cases!
try:
- maya
- lightwave
- cinema 4d
- 3dsmax
- modo
- etc....

so NO further excuses

[terran_emperor]

Thanks. I'll give it a try soon

[jr2]

there are dozends of software-packages available on the market.....AND SOME ARE FREE!!!!!

try:
- blender
- wings

you also can download DEMO-VERSIONS of EVERY commercial software. these demo-versions are FULLY functional in the most cases!
try:
- maya
- lightwave
- cinema 4d
- 3dsmax
- modo
- etc....

so NO further excuses

Google Sketchup... there is a free version, and a retail version... I've heard it's easy to use.  (From the ten minutes I spent with the free version, it seems worth checking out at least.)

[Asuko]

Again I wonder, have you been searching hard enough? The internets are a series of tubes afterall 

[colecampbell666]

Not at all slow like the old trucks were.

My suggestion: Blender. Very in-depth and powerful, but it may take a while to learn.

[IceyJones]

hey VA

i think, that it is time for another eyecandy but i hope you do not raise the bar too high....otherwise you have to make tombaugh

[terran_emperor]

id like to know where youre at now too

[colecampbell666]

In university.

[terran_emperor]

You or VA? I can sympathise

[colecampbell666]

Him.

[Jeff Vader]

I can sympathise

Hey, Uni is fun. Halfway through this month, I have 5 exams within a week. I'm going to change my... what do you call it... study program in the spring, which further complicates matters. I must get a job for the summer to afford the luxury of eating in the summer. I'm losing my apartment at the end of July. And today I received a letter stating that I must participate a military refresher in May. So thank you so ****ing much, Life. Again.

[colecampbell666]

Your fault for wanting to be successful. Why do you lose your apartment? Why would you change your study program? Are you at a military school?

[Jeff Vader]

1. That's true. My bad. Maybe I should be a plumber.
2. The landlord has made some deals and this building is converted into some dorm thing for some trade school bastards and all the current residents are kicked out.
3. I've realised that I really don't like process engineering. And, after some careful and extensive thinking, I've come to the conclusion that I'm a geek and IT is the way to go.
4. No, but Finland has a compulsory military service system. I did my part in '06, but now I have to go and 'revise'. Funny. I would have thought they'd seen enough to be convinced that I can more than well sleep in a tent all day long, going out to eat something every now and then.

[colecampbell666]

Oh. By study program I thought that you meant study pattern or something, not course. And how many wars has Finland fought in recently?

[Jeff Vader]

Um, let's try this once more, just to be safe. Currently I'm studying process engineering and would graduate as a Master of Science in Technology in the field of process engineering. But, I want to switch to studying information technology/engineering/whatever. I would still graduate as a Master of Science in Technology, but this time in the field of information technology. Luckily switching inside a faculty is a bit easier and I don't have to reapply to the university.

And you can always scour Wikipedia for Finnish history. We did partially kick arse in WWII.

[colecampbell666]

I meant currently. And how come you never appear online, even though you clearly are? Proxy?

[Jeff Vader]

Well, luckily there have been less wars recently. And hopefully it'll stay that way. Let's just say that if Finland gets caught up in a war, I'll escape either to China or Norway.

And as for the online/offline part, I have my secret 

[colecampbell666]

I'll escape either to China or Norway.

Not Japan?

[Jeff Vader]

Oh yeah. I'll go there.