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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
Hi there, Phaedrus. One question: The version of FS you have, are you sure it is a full version?
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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
Yeah, make sure that your disc is not a demo, otherwise you'll be missing key files.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 
Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*

*grins insanely*

Well Tureys worked fine, although I havent tried any of the mods or anything. But the main game works beautifully.

I'm so hooked. Just bought a Logitech Attack 3 flight stick today and im very happy.

The PCPP cover disc version was/is the full version and works fine. FSO installed over it and works fine. The visuals have made one hell of a difference with just the FSO.

Am currently DLing the latest version of the MediaVPs, have the latest build and Launcher and all is well. I cant wait to try the latest mvps.

I gotta say, everyone involved in this Source project have done an awesome job.

Once everythings up and running Ill be playing through the main campaigns, then Ill try some mods.

I have one question -

When placing the new MVPs into the MVP folder, I have to delete all the old stuff, do I delete the files from the FSPort MVP folder as well?


 

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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
When placing the new MVPs into the MVP folder, I have to delete all the old stuff, do I delete the files from the FSPort MVP folder as well?
I don't remember anyone complaining that the Installer downloaded corrupt FSPort MediaVPs, so you should be alright. But if problems occur, and if you think they are related to the FSPort MediaVPs, get back to us and we'll instruct you on how to check if the FSPort MediaVPs are broken or not.

*grins insanely*

Well Tureys worked fine
The main reasons why certain people (yours truly included) dislike the Installer are as follows:
- FSO builds downloaded by it are from the Stone Age
- the Launcher downloaded by it is also older than it should be
- the MediaVPs are borked
- many people (still) have the impression that the Installer installs FS2
- it doesn't make it clear enough that OpenAL must be installed.

In addition to those, I also dislike the fact that Turey's Installer reduces the learning experience associated with installig FSO. People just use it, click Next a few times and then it's all over and they don't have the faintest idea of what just happened.
Installing and using FSO is no rocket science, and it is really helpful and useful to know what you need, where you need to put it and how does it (generally speaking) work. Mods are a source of pain and misery in this case, because even though the Installer downloads them, many people don't know what to do with them because they assume that the Installer has done all the work for them.
I think the Installer could be a good piece of software if it was up to date and didn't download broken stuff. Even then I'd wish that whoever uses the Installer knows what he's doing, knows how FSO works and is using the Installer to either just download a lot of mods or to install FSO in a hassle-free manner (assuming of course that he/she could install FSO manually if it were necessary).

My two cents.

Manual installation ftw.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
I pretty much agree with you, as I waited for tureys to DL I read the manual FSO instructions more in depth and got a better hang on it. I can certainly see why manual is much better, learning to understand what goes where and why makes me feel much more comfortable when trying to understand issues, should they come up. Hopefully, I've accounted for them first simply because of the Idiots guide and consequent comments, but then I am an idiot and and I often feel like Im the only person on the planet that reads instruction books before using anything (that includes fridges, DVD players, logitech manuals and mountain bike manuals and anything else that comes with little booklets).

As I said, the main campaign works well so far. I havent used the MVPs that it installed and the mods that come with it are all over the place, so Im making a new MOD folder and will try a couple, but I suspect that if FSO files are old then so will the mods be and I'll wait for the new MVPs to DL before trying them.

And my grinning insanely was due to getting the game to work, not so much becasue of Tureys, but the FSO install stopped all the slowdown I had experienced on the first install, or maybe it was the OpenAL. Im not sure... But I havent had this much fun in a long time.



 

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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
the mods that come with it are all over the place, so Im making a new MOD folder and will try a couple
Have you read the mod installation instructions yet? Any mods downloaded by the Installer are placed into their own subfolders. The idea is that you leave them there. Then, if/when you want to play a mod, you select the folder of the mod you want to play with the Launcher's MOD tab, then start the game, then go to the Campaign Room to select the correct campaign, and then play that campaign.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
To add on to Jeff's post, let's say that you downloaded Blue Planet. Do not place it in \freespace2\, but place it in a new subfolder like, say, \freespace2\BP\. Then, if you want to run Blue Planet, do as Jeff says. If you want to run FS2_Open without mods, go to the Mod tab in the Launcher and press "No Mod".
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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
Just bought a Logitech Attack 3 flight stick today and im very happy.
If you still have time to return it I would, I've had three Logitech sticks break on me. Get a Saitek Cyborg X.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
First post updated to include the new and awesome FSO 3.6.10 Final.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
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11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline colecampbell666

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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
Woot! I assume RC3 is final.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
RC3 is RC3. Final is Final.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline colecampbell666

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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
True, it has more bugfixes.
Gettin' back to dodgin' lasers.

 

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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
New offline installer now available for 3.6.10, very noob friendly  :D

http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,64634.0.html

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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
Ok. Having just DLed media files and tureys and all that other stuff a few weeks ago (before this release), still playing through Freespace Port campaign, lol. Havent had chance to try anything else yet, like other campaigns and stuff to see if the trueys DL worked, considering lots of known issues.

So ...

Is it worthwhile wiping the slate clean and and starting from scratch with this new final version? I dont mind losing saved campaign data or reDLing stuff if its going to be worth it for bug free gaming and new shinies ;)

And my joystick is still working! Although I have to discipline myself to not lean on the thing as Im playing, it gets quite intense so i can see why some people break them!

 

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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
The only thing you absolutely need to redownload manually are the mediavps and the 3.6.10 Final executable (you should also delete the 3.6.9 exes and the Installer)
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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
Could someone please give a ballpark figure for the size of the download if I select The works from the launcher? I can only download so much a month and I kinda need to know when it will stop.

 
Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
This sticky did not work for me.

This one did: http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,47640.0.html



 

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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
You know, it would help if you told us where the problems were. So we can, you know, fix them.
If I'm just aching this can't go on
I came from chasing dreams to feel alone
There must be changes, miss to feel strong
I really need lifе to touch me
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Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
Sorry, I'm a complete beginner and the first link uses an automated install? It kept saying stuff was out of date during the installation. When I came to play the game it stopped right at the start saying there was a problem with weapons or something.

I'm sorry if that's not very helpful and it may well be that I didn't follow the instructions properly.

The second link is a manual installation and I managed to follow those OK.


 
Re: The Idiot's Guide to Installing Freespace 2 Open *NOOB FRIENDLY* *WIP*
You know, it would help if you told us where the problems were. So we can, you know, fix them.

I ran it 2 days ago and got errors about core_files.txt and 3.6.10 MediaVPS not found (so i'm guessing it meant mv.txt).

I just did a fresh install again and didn't get that.

EDIT: I ran it the 2nd time with "The Works" selected and got no errors, but when I ran it a 3rd time with "FSO with 3.6.10 mediaVPS" I got "A section specified in the install config could not be found." for:

FreeSpace Open 3.6.10 Linux Executables (64-bit)
3.6.10 MediaVPs

and then the selection area where you can choose what to install never appeared and it forced me to click "next" again where it started installing stuff.

I tried the 'barebones' installation, and it forced me to select nearly everything, minus multiplayer missions, ogg cutscenes, fs1 cutscenes, and Homesick.
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