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Title: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: An4ximandros on May 07, 2013, 04:30:19 am: http://kotaku.com/ea-snags-exclusive-deal-to-make-star-wars-games-493178983
http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/05/electronic-arts-star-wars/
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/05/06/ea-disney-exclusive-rights-star-wars/
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Herra Tohtori on May 07, 2013, 04:36:30 am: I FELT A GREAT DISTURBANCE

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Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: FUBAR-BDHR on May 07, 2013, 04:40:33 am: It's amazing with how bad they screwed up SWTOR.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: MatthTheGeek on May 07, 2013, 06:17:41 am: Yeah, probably a result of the negociations for acquiring LA in the first place as the first article points out.

We'll see how it goes. So far EA hasn't ruined anything I care about, and they can't be less productive than LA was.

That's not necessarily such a bad move from Disney, especially given what didn't happen on the Marvel video game front.

Who knows, if Disney starts to wake up to the video game market, we might see good Marvel-based games happen yet in the future.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Dragon on May 07, 2013, 06:38:48 am: I've got a baaad feeling about this. Help us, chief1983, you're our only hope. :)
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: NGTM-1R on May 07, 2013, 06:39:08 am: Quote from: FUBAR-BDHR on May 07, 2013, 04:40:33 am
It's amazing with how bad they screwed up SWTOR.

People who actually still look at TOR tell me that in the last three months there's been more cause for hope in the game than there was since launch, so I'm inclined to cut EA some slack.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: BloodEagle on May 07, 2013, 09:06:20 am: ****.

:banghead:
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: The E on May 07, 2013, 09:12:29 am: Could be worse. Could be Activision.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Deathsnake on May 07, 2013, 09:24:20 am: Maybe not too bad.

A Jedi Knight in the style of Mass Effect? Kyle with Luke/Han/Leia/Lando/Chawbacca and co in a Grp?
Battlefront in the Frostbite 3 Engine. DICE make Singleplayer in Battlefield 4. Maybe then a Campaign in Battlefront 3?
Empire at War 2 again with Frostbite 3
Maybe a new X-Wing ?
1313 from the Dead Space Studio?

looking forward...
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Sarafan on May 07, 2013, 09:46:17 am: Quote from: Deathsnake on May 07, 2013, 09:24:20 am
Maybe not too bad.

A Jedi Knight in the style of Mass Effect? Kyle with Luke/Han/Leia/Lando/Chawbacca and co in a Grp?
Battlefront in the Frostbite 3 Engine. DICE make Singleplayer in Battlefield 4. Maybe then a Campaign in Battlefront 3?
Empire at War 2 again with Frostbite 3
Maybe a new X-Wing ?
1313 from the Dead Space Studio?

looking forward...

There's a snowball's chance in hell but one can only hope. Whatever they do I just hope that it wont be about a rehash of the movies yet again.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: MP-Ryan on May 07, 2013, 10:10:58 am: Quote from: Sarafan on May 07, 2013, 09:46:17 am
There's a snowball's chance in hell but one can only hope. Whatever they do I just hope that it wont be about a rehash of the movies yet again.

Indeed. The best things to come out of Star Wars have virtually nothing to do with the movies (Kotor, Jedi Knight, etc).
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: MatthTheGeek on May 07, 2013, 11:53:14 am: Star Wars Republic Commando.

It was the last good thing Lucasart did. They were dead for all intents and purposes afterwards but hell they "departed" with a masterpiece.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Al-Rik on May 07, 2013, 04:48:57 pm: Quote from: Deathsnake on May 07, 2013, 09:24:20 am
Battlefront in the Frostbite 3 Engine. DICE make Singleplayer in Battlefield 4. Maybe then a Campaign in Battlefront 3 ?
Yeah, Battlefield 3 is a lot like Battlefront 1 & 2: No working tools for coordination (like a useful map, a commander or working comroses), so a Battlefront by Dice would be at least as good as the old ones.
Any they sucked compared to Battlefield 2 or Battlefield 2142 ;)
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Beskargam on May 07, 2013, 05:22:47 pm: is apprehensive. Not sure this will go well, generally distrust EA, but will wait and see I think...
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Hobbie on May 07, 2013, 06:49:49 pm: The problem is, EA is going the Activision route, especially with their FPSes and their railroaded story, blinding bloom and shades-of-grey-and-brown colour palette, achievement/unlock based multiplayer and incremental bits of DLC that cost twenty bucks a pop. Look at Battlefield 3 compared to the older Battlefield games. BF3.5 (sorry, BF4) is gonna be even worse. This is going to hit Star Wars and people will eat it right up even though the quality has markedly dropped in an attempt to make more money.

Could you imagine an X-Wing game with perks, unlocks, paint jobs and weapon attachments? "OMG I just prestiged my KX-9 now I can fire purple laser bolts! They match the pony art on my X-Wing's nose! Now I have to just level up my Ls10.4s so they make a WUBWUB sound when firing!"
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: deathfun on May 08, 2013, 12:49:46 am: Quote from: Hobbie on May 07, 2013, 06:49:49 pm
Could you imagine an X-Wing game with perks, unlocks, paint jobs and weapon attachments? "OMG I just prestiged my KX-9 now I can fire purple laser bolts! They match the pony art on my X-Wing's nose! Now I have to just level up my Ls10.4s so they make a WUBWUB sound when firing!"

Could someone tell me how any of what was said right there is actually a bad thing? :P

I've my reservations about EA, but I won't be one to dismiss something before it happens
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Flak on May 08, 2013, 01:24:49 am: At least the good news part is that they have both the rights of Star Wars and Battlefield, so they better don't screw up Star Wars: Battlefront 3
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Veers on May 08, 2013, 03:11:06 am: Star Wars Rebellion 2. Anything but Empire at War again please, it was a decent enough game. But just lacked so much that Rebellion had layed down.

Quote from: Hobbie on May 07, 2013, 06:49:49 pm
Could you imagine an X-Wing game with perks, unlocks, paint jobs and weapon attachments? "OMG I just prestiged my KX-9 now I can fire purple laser bolts! They match the pony art on my X-Wing's nose! Now I have to just level up my Ls10.4s so they make a WUBWUB sound when firing!"

This world is dead to me... What is with this design/style of games now anyway?, everything is level-fking-up. :/
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: The E on May 08, 2013, 03:43:01 am: Rebellion was a pretty damn good game. I'd kill for an updated version that has more in-depth fleet combat.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: BloodEagle on May 08, 2013, 08:48:33 am: Quote from: Veers on May 08, 2013, 03:11:06 am
This world is dead to me... What is with this design/style of games now anyway?, everything is level-fking-up. :/

Publishers think Skinner Box == More Profit.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: MatthTheGeek on May 08, 2013, 09:35:25 am: (http://i275.photobucket.com/albums/jj303/Thatairsoftkid/HatersGonnaHate.jpg)
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: NGTM-1R on May 08, 2013, 09:44:07 am: Quote from: The E on May 08, 2013, 03:43:01 am
Rebellion was a pretty damn good game. I'd kill for an updated version that has more in-depth fleet combat.

The thing that always got me about Rebellion was how ultimately tacked on the fleet combat was. (Over time I realized that the main reason to take direct command was because the AI couldn't manage a proper retreat-before-contact; the AI was amazing at keeping its fleets on the shuffle too.) In a lot of ways it was closer to Paradox's management-sim model of strategy game than tactical/strategic scale actual modeled combat that makes sense.

(Plus the fact you were pretty close to guaranteed only one fleet action in a game, if you were competent...)
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: newman on May 08, 2013, 10:52:52 am: Given LucasArt's track record for the past few years, and the general level of quality in SW games in the same time period, I have to wonder why this is such bad news - or what exactly are we losing? I haven't seen a good SW game since KOTOR 1. At this point in time, "Star Wars" in the title of a game gives me more doubts about it's quality than the "EA" stamp does.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: karajorma on May 08, 2013, 10:54:57 am: Seriously, why is anyone still worked up about the fact that nothing good is coming out of Star Wars? It's like getting upset that the latest Eddie Murphy movie is ****. :p

And the sooner we all start ignoring it, the sooner they'll have to do something actually good in order to win us back.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Lorric on May 08, 2013, 11:03:24 am: Quote from: newman on May 08, 2013, 10:52:52 am
At this point in time, "Star Wars" in the title of a game gives me more doubts about it's quality than the "EA" stamp does.

I agree with this. I've always thought a lot of Star Wars games are lazily made games cashing in on the brand name. The only Star Wars games I have are Rogue Squadron, Starfighter, Jedi Starfighter and Battlefront 2. Oh and one for the Commodore 64, I forget it's name. It involves shooting TIEs and the Death Star trench run if I remember right.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: The E on May 08, 2013, 11:07:03 am: You missed out on all the TIE Fighter games, XWA, KOTOR.... There's a lot of room in the Star Wars license to make good games.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Lorric on May 08, 2013, 11:10:42 am: Quote from: The E on May 08, 2013, 11:07:03 am
You missed out on all the TIE Fighter games, XWA, KOTOR.... There's a lot of room in the Star Wars license to make good games.

Yes, I did. The TIE fighter games I was envious of PC owners being able to play those. Even though I never actually saw them in action, I just heard so much about them. I've no idea if I'd like KOTOR though. I've never looked into it. Star Wars RPG doesn't make me excited.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Jeff Vader on May 08, 2013, 11:12:08 am: Quote from: Lorric on May 08, 2013, 11:10:42 am
I've no idea if I'd like KOTOR though. I've never looked into it. Star Wars RPG doesn't make me excited.
It's like Dragon Age: Origins, except it's Star Wars.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Lorric on May 08, 2013, 11:20:51 am: Quote from: Jeff Vader on May 08, 2013, 11:12:08 am
Quote from: Lorric on May 08, 2013, 11:10:42 am
I've no idea if I'd like KOTOR though. I've never looked into it. Star Wars RPG doesn't make me excited.
It's like Dragon Age: Origins, except it's Star Wars.

Never played it. Know nothing about it, but have seen it's name pop up here and there on numerous occasions. I've been off RPGs for a lot of years though. The last one I enjoyed was Final Fantasy X. I did complete Final Fantasy X-2 as well, but it was like half what a Final Fantasy should be, but also half the price, so can't complain. It had it's moments, but there were times when I'd have been most embarrassed for anyone to see me playing it.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: SpardaSon21 on May 08, 2013, 01:01:11 pm: Grab KotOR and KotOR 2, and the Restored Content Mod for KotOR 2. A lot of stuff got axed so LucasArts could release KotOR 2 in time for the holiday season, and that mod adds it back in while fixing a few bugs that never got patched.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: MP-Ryan on May 08, 2013, 04:25:39 pm: Lorric, saying Final Fantasy and KoTOR are both RPGs is like saying Call of Duty and Deus Ex are both first-person shooters. While it might give you some idea about some of the characteristics, the comparisons are absolutely meaningless.

KoTOR is a party-based 'western RPG,' widely-acknowledged as among the best ever made. Final Fantasy is a tired jRPG series that should have ended years ago but keeps flogging the dead horse for all the cash its worth.

You owe it to yourself to play KoTOR, then Dragon Age: Origins. They are both excellent games.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Lorric on May 08, 2013, 05:08:11 pm: Quote from: MP-Ryan on May 08, 2013, 04:25:39 pm
Lorric, saying Final Fantasy and KoTOR are both RPGs is like saying Call of Duty and Deus Ex are both first-person shooters. While it might give you some idea about some of the characteristics, the comparisons are absolutely meaningless.

KoTOR is a party-based 'western RPG,' widely-acknowledged as among the best ever made. Final Fantasy is a tired jRPG series that should have ended years ago but keeps flogging the dead horse for all the cash its worth.

You owe it to yourself to play KoTOR, then Dragon Age: Origins. They are both excellent games.

I've never really thought it that big a deal whether an RPG is Western or Eastern. Just that it does what a good RPG is supposed to do. But it's just the game type that's turned me off in recent times. Though I'm sure Final Fantasy going down (the series basically ended for me at X-2) had a lot to do with it. Ni No Kuni did grab my attention though. First one in all those years to excite me, though I haven't paid much attention to the genre. I will wait for my RPG-loving friend to play it first, and see what he has to say. There are mixed reports about heavy grinding being required in that game and not being required, that's the sticking point. Grinding is not fun for me.

Final Fantasy has gone down the tubes because Square-Enix has gone down the tubes. Final Fantasy had a completely different story each time, you wouldn't even need the IP to make a Final Fantasy-type game. The IP used to be a stamp of peerless quality, now, it's more like a warning label. As is Square-Enix. Oh, I came very close to going on a big anti-Square-Enix rant here when I found out about Final Fantasy: All The Bravest recently. I did write about it to a friend though, so it could yet be copy-pasted with minor adjustments...

KOtoR is off limits. It's not on PS3, and my PC is at an extreme premium for hard drive space. I had a quick look about Dragon Age Origins, wasn't pleased to see lots of DLC. Do you need to get that DLC to see crucial parts of the story or play the game properly? Does it feel like a half-finished game without the DLC?
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: The E on May 08, 2013, 05:19:34 pm: Lorric, friendly reminder, you're rambling again. This is not a thread about jRPGs, or how they're different from cRPGs. This is also not a thread about Squenix's failures to do something good with the FF brand.
regarding KOTOR: There is very little grind, and a lot of awesome story. Gameplay is a bit janky, on account of it being a port of a game made for the original XBox, but it's a very cool Star Wars game that does a good job of translating the SW feel into a game (And KOTOR2 has an absolutely gorgeous story that does rather interesting things with the universe). It's also only around 3.5GB in size according to Steam.

DAO's DLC is completely unnecessary (Although I should think that the Ultimate Edition, which has all of the DLC on-disc already, is not that much more expensive than the original release).
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: An4ximandros on May 08, 2013, 06:28:43 pm: The DAO DLC is only necessary to get rid of a sucker's quest permanently stuck on your journal reminding you to buy a DLC in order to finish it. You can skip it, it's pretty lame.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: BloodEagle on May 08, 2013, 07:27:52 pm: DAO (IMO) is Baldur's Gate done wrong.
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Post by: Lorric on May 08, 2013, 07:37:37 pm: It's good to know this isn't that kind of DLC.
Title: Re: EA Gets Exclusive Star Wars VG Rights
Post by: Scotty on May 08, 2013, 08:09:26 pm: Quote from: BloodEagle on May 08, 2013, 07:27:52 pm
DAO (IMO) is Baldur's Gate done wrong.

No, I'm fairly certain Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance is Baldur's Gate done wrong.

DA:O is much closer to "Not Baldur's Gate at all".