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Offline Excalibur

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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
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I dislike the Taurvis more than Nahemas. The thing is that the Nahema suffers from a huge target profile, while the Taurvi doesn't. If you tried hitting the Taurvi from front, rear or broadside, it's almost impossible.

I don't like Manticores very much either, but they're better than the Dragon because they don't usually outrun dual Interceptors/Harpoons.

Luckily, a dual Treb occasionally disable a Seraphim, to be gunned down at leisure.

It doesn't happen often, but I get that sometimes too. ;)

My wingmen usually kill all nearby Aeshmas before I can fire my guns. :rolleyes:

I wasted a whole load of harpoons once in insane trying to kill a Manticore...
and we still only had crappy Prometheus R's and Subachs which aren't so crap, but Prom. S's and above are needed for the "kill in 5 shots" effect.
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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
I only play on Medium and even then I still sux, but...

Fighter: Dragon, obvious... I refuse to imagine what it's like fighting them on Insane or with an edited AI Profiles table, and it doesn't even look Shivan enough to me...

Bomber: Nahema... whenever I fight that thing it can always burn past me... I can chase it down, but the Loki lacks firepower :blah:

Then again I hate them all in general - their strafing lets them turn much faster, and turning my mouse to keep up suddenly becomes an enjoyment-detracting chore... on those rare occasions where I get the game working on Linux, my mouse barely moves, and that's even worse~

And the Aeshma to me gives off that "I'm just a useless crap who's slow and weak and I resemble a giant flying face with two hands and my creators didn't even bother to center me in the Techroom" vibe. (no offense intended, it's just the feel of it.)

Whatever deadly repose or whatever it brings is effectively cancelled out - when I'm really pissed, seeing them is like, "Damn, just STFU and GTFO so that I don't have to waste my time pumping Kayser on your ugly (CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED CENSORED~~~~~)!!!" :mad: :mad: :mad:

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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
the most hated shivan small ship... would have to be... ... ...the Seraphim. it is so slow, even captial ship turrets could destroy that bomber easy!! :lol:. pump it full off rockeyes along with a volley of energy rounds and it's dead :P
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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
I found the basilisk frustrating because the mongrels came in such huge numbers

 

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Basilisks aren't much better than Aeshmas in the cannon-fodder department, though.  Unless they jump in a few hundred meters away from a weak escort ship and start launching swarm missiles, they're probably not going to be able to do all that much.

 

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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
Strangely, I find the Basilisk to be more durable than the Aeshma...just.
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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
Leviathans go under ridiculously fast if six or so basilisks jump in and start launching (real) Hornets.

 

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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
Strangely, I find the Basilisk to be more durable than the Aeshma...just.
The Basilisk is better in almost all respects than the Aeshma. Check the stats. It's true. The Shivans are throwing weaker fighters out.

 

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The Basilisk has a really big engine front, announcing "shoot me!"

  

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Aeshmas tend to die by my wingmens' hand before i notice them.
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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
Yes, in bearbaiting 's a bore waiting for them to arrive at the end. I have fun telling my wingmen (and ladies) to ignore my target and waste all my Helii on them. Except they are so stupid they think they have enough distance on the bomb and turn 'round to attack me again. Three guesses what the last thing they see is...
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A helios in the face?
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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
I wonder how that'll look like... :drevil:
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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
Yes, in bearbaiting 's a bore waiting for them to arrive at the end. I have fun telling my wingmen (and ladies) to ignore my target and waste all my Helii on them. Except they are so stupid they think they have enough distance on the bomb and turn 'round to attack me again. Three guesses what the last thing they see is...

He/she/it/other also thinks that <insert proper word>'ll dodge the bomb, but the bomb needs like 1 second to do a loop, so it's impossible. The target usually has to find that out the hard way.
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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
They don't do too much to shields.

 

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Actually, I find bombs to be more of anti-shield weapons. I once managed to hit a Basilisk or Aeshma with it, but only the rear quadrant of the Shivan fighter was reduced to nothing.
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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
I wonder how that'll look like... :drevil:

And I view from their camera... :drevil:

Actually, I find bombs to be more of anti-shield weapons. I once managed to hit a Basilisk or Aeshma with it, but only the rear quadrant of the Shivan fighter was reduced to nothing.

I noticed that too, though I think they either had 20% hull or I launched daul bombs, one for shields, the other for hull, since I don't think two bombs can effect a shield quadrant twice if one reduces it to nothing.
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http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/Helios

Armor Damage            Full     6 800
Shield Damage            Minimal    136
Subsystem Damage    Very Good    5 780

136 points of damage is very little.

 

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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
May be enough for one quadrant, obviously when that quadrant is out, there isn't a fighter left.

EDIT: checked the WIki, it has 850 shields, /4 = ~212.5 per quadrant. Hmm...must've used missiles first. Though double Helii could take out one quadrant.

The Wiki also states how crap they are, so :nod: they are crap? Confirmed. :yes:
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Re: Most hated shivan fighter/bomber
It is interesting to see a warhead chasing a fighter, though... :drevil:
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