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Offline Colonol Dekker

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I think this will surpass BTRL, dunno why, call it a hunch.
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-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline Mobius

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I'll try to be honest with this one.

First of all I'm happy because we can finally see a great BSG mod here on HLP. Although GW is a nice site HLP is the most active and important one. I didn't like the fact that GW visitors interested on BtRL, by looking at the inactive FS related threads, could think of the FS community as a dead one(BtRL and a few other projects excluded). So, Diaspora will bring here a lot of potential members and show them what the FS community is really capable of.

I don't like the fact that the original BtRL team split up, however. Looks like most members joined Diaspora, thus leaving BtRL with poor chances of survival. The forums on GW are dying and that mod has rapidly lost momentum - it's on the verge of the abyss. This is far from being good. I hard believe no one else agrees with me. I wonder if a split was necessary. Now there will be two teams attempting to do similar(if not the same) things...  :ick:

I wish you luck with the mod. I hope it'll be a great one! :D
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Offline karajorma

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The Starfox mod on its own could keep a lot of people interested in Game-Warden. They've got a lot of very cool stuff going on in their internal. :)
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Offline Mobius

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Yeah, but what has recently happened to BtRL is sad... :(
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Offline Polpolion

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TBH, I'm kind of shocked that this happened. What kind of conflicts are you guys talking about with the BtRL team? I mean, from my perspective, it just seems like you guys didn't get your way so you stopped playing and made your own game.

It just seems kind of childish...

But I wouldn't know. I didn't see what happened, so I'm not one to comment at all.

 

Offline karajorma

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I'm not saying what went on internally with BtRL because that's exactly what it was, internal.

 I will say however that it wasn't a simple fit of pique and that those few outsiders who have been told the full story and have expressed an opinion have said that they don't blame us for leaving.
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Offline Meleardil

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It just seems kind of childish...

I don't think we shall explain anything...but think: a dozen people being childish all at once? Well...
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Offline Polpolion

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I'm not saying what went on internally with BtRL because that's exactly what it was, internal.

 I will say however that it wasn't a simple fit of pique and that those few outsiders who have been told the full story and have expressed an opinion have said that they don't blame us for leaving.

I'm sure I wouldn't blame you, it's just that these things are... regrettable.

Regardless, I wish Diaspora the best of luck. Make a cool BSG game; I'll be looking forward to playing it. :)

 

Offline IceFire

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I think its safe to say that Diaspora has lots of talented people behind it and surely many more to join in the future.  Its in good hands...we'll see some neat stuff no doubt!  We already have :)
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Offline redsniper

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It's funny because when everyone was speculating about the new badge, I jokingly thought, "HLP is going to announce their own BSG mod to compete with GW and their BtRL, because dividing talent between two rival mods is totally a great idea in such a small community."

Granted, that's not exactly what happened, but it's close enough amuse me.

Er... that is to say... I'm not criticizing what you guys did, since it appears most of the team has moved over to this new project. I just thought it would be funny to have the BtRL team split in half and try to outdo each other for no good reason.
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Offline Adalla

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I don't like the fact that the original BtRL team split up, however. Looks like most members joined Diaspora, thus leaving BtRL with poor chances of survival. The forums on GW are dying and that mod has rapidly lost momentum - it's on the verge of the abyss.


There is a saying...very appropriate in this instance.

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It just seems kind of childish...

I don't think we shall explain anything...but think: a dozen people being childish all at once? Well...

Well, it's a matter of opinions. Officially, most BtRL team members left to form the new Diaspora team...but looks like, well, most BtRL members got rid of the others who're still on GW for partially known reasons. If people had different opinions on internal a poll should've been enough to clarify everything. If so many members agreed with Karajorma why did the others refuse to accept the fact that the plans for a BSG mod needed urgent changes?

I don't find the members of the Diaspora team childish(how can Karajorma be childish?!?). I think the others are pretty childish because they think to keep BtRL running with a skeleton team and without the support of so many. HLP is all for Diaspora.
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I don't find the members of the Diaspora team childish(how can Karajorma be childish?!?). I think the others are pretty childish because they think to keep BtRL running with a skeleton team and without the support of so many. HLP is all for Diaspora.[/i][/color]

       "HLP is all for Diaspora?" I don't recall you being nominated the voice of the forum.  :doubt:
       If the mod team split, whatever. Best of luck to both parties.

 

Offline Mobius

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The HLP community supports the project, right? Why wouldn't we?!? :wtf:
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Offline karajorma

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What he means is that HLP support both BtRL and Diaspora rather than picking sides. Which is fair enough, as far as I'm concerned BtRL is just another FS2_Open game which I'll treat no differently to WCS or Shadows of Lylat.
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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That's my view too, i just think Diaspora will be a bit better :nod:
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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Offline Stormkeeper

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I believe that the BTRL team would have a perfectly good reason for splitting, not over something like "I hate caek". If they wanna keep the reason private, then I respect their wishes.

Regardless, I support both parties, and hope both do equally well in creating what they view as their own vision of what BSG in FSO should be.
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Regardless, I support both parties, and hope both do equally well in creating what they view as their own vision of what BSG in FSO should be.

I too hope for the same.  :nod:

 
I believe that the BTRL team would have a perfectly good reason for splitting, not over something like "I hate caek". If they wanna keep the reason private, then I respect their wishes.

Regardless, I support both parties, and hope both do equally well in creating what they view as their own vision of what BSG in FSO should be.

Well... Caek is pretty awful stuff...

 

Offline MetalDestroyer

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Do we know how many people are still in the btrl team ?