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Offline Drogoth

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UEF would burn the gate if they could. Colonists' reaction is irrelevant to this strategic point, since the destruction of the node would mute them on Sol's side.

I think it might be possible that the BP team could try to go this path. First, you need to prolongue the war and create enough war dynamics in order to get an opportunity. Second, you need a plan of attack. In my perspective, it will be a battle of wits between those who defend the node and those who attack it. Diversions, stealth mechanisms, surprises, etc. will be tools for both sides.

Now, if the node is destroyed, I think that the war either escalates atrociously, with general Steele feeling suddenly very alone in Sol and deciding to conquer Earth to prepare it for the next built node; or it will wither, with many tevs defecting to Earth. It can also be a combination of both and lots of insanity from tev admirals, commanders, etc. Either way, it's an incredible achievement for the UEF forces, and therefore they should be working to get this done.

It may however prove to be impossible. With that in mind, we can also see the return of shivans... and then all hell breaks loose.

I place the destruction of the Sol gate and the isolation of Earth for a second time to be the LEAST likely path the BP team would follow, allthough I suppose it's possible. Issue with this whole plan being, it would render AoA completely moot.

The impression I'm getting is that the Vishnans have a showdown planned. Not one of flashing  beams and exploding ships, but a psychological test for humanity... and those evil evil Zods. Judging by the dialogue sequence between the Dante and the 'OMGWTFVISHNANSHIP', this involves finding a way to truly create rather then to simply destroy. Cutting Sol off from the galaxy may constitute a 'win' for the UEF, but would in my opinion, almost certainly be a failure of the Vishnan test.

I've never been one to really like the ordained flavor of the Vishnans and Shivans roles in BP. Or rather maybe that's to strong, it's simply not the direction I would have taken personally. However, that doesn't mean I can discount it in context of the story, meaning the only thing the UEF can really do at this point is hope Byrnes (sp?) project helps to provide the 'enlightenment' required. Or its calling for help from Vishnans/Shivans. I can't remember where I first saw that idea pitched, but I thought it was plausible.

Also the Vasudans fit into this somewhere, since apparently Khonsu is so friggen awesome and is already 'closer to enlightenment' then some of the Eldars, which means the node can't be collapsed or else all the storytelling around the Vasudans both in mission and in lore would also be rendered ultimately pointless.
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Offline Luis Dias

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You are right they won't negate AoA, but it doesn't mean that they won't make UEF try to porsue this strategy.

 

Offline Drogoth

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Fair enough, but I doubt they would allow the UEF to succeed. And judging by how the UEF is already up **** creek without a paddle, I could only see this whole plan making it worse for them if they fail.
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Offline crizza

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I would laugh my ass off, if Khonsu simply said "Tevs...you screwed it up...I'm taking matters in my own hands..."

 

Offline Snail

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I would laugh my ass off, if Khonsu simply said "Tevs...you screwed it up...I'm taking matters in my own hands..."
and then proceed to do what exactly

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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Offline MatthTheGeek

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Tell the Tevs to gtfo and send Vasudan battlegroups into Sol, finishing of the Feds in a couple of weeks.
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Offline Colonol Dekker

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I don't see why the Zodfleet would be any more adept at finishing us them off than Tevfleet.

I have yet to see their capability though. My opinion may or may not change once i see R2.
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-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
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Offline MatthTheGeek

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They're Zods. They can only be better than Tevs. The contrary wouldn't seem physically possible.

If you don't believe me, put a Sobek against a Hecate.
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666maslo666: Releasing a finished product is not a good thing! It is a modern fad.

SpardaSon21: it seems like you exist in a permanent state of half-joking misanthropy

Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

bigchunk1: it's not retarded it's american!
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batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
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Offline -Norbert-

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Erm.... Aten and Mentu?

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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The Aten was actually my most visually pleasing favourite from FS1 retail :nod:


Still stank of skinny though.
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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The Mentu would be a pretty good cruiser if the AI were smart enough to roll to bring its weapons to bear instead of sitting at whatever orientation it happens to be at when attacked.

 

Offline MatthTheGeek

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Erm.... Aten and Mentu?
Because the Fenris and Leviathan are any better ?
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Axem: when you put it like that, i sound like an insane person

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batwota: steele's maneuvering for the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: you mispelled grâce
Awaesaar: grace
batwota: oh right :P
Darius: ah!
Darius: yes, i like that
MatthTheGeek: the way you just spelled it it means fat
Awaesaar: +accent I forgot how to keyboard
MatthTheGeek: or grease
Darius: the killing fat!
Axem: jabba does the coup de gras
MatthTheGeek: XD
Axem: bring me solo and a cookie

 

Offline Colonol Dekker

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At least they're built to spec *coughmentufailcough*
Campaigns I've added my distinctiveness to-
- Blue Planet: Battle Captains
-Battle of Neptune
-Between the Ashes 2
-Blue planet: Age of Aquarius
-FOTG?
-Inferno R1
-Ribos: The aftermath / -Retreat from Deneb
-Sol: A History
-TBP EACW teaser
-Earth Brakiri war
-TBP Fortune Hunters (I think?)
-TBP Relic
-Trancsend (Possibly?)
-Uncharted Territory
-Vassagos Dirge
-War Machine
(Others lost to the mists of time and no discernible audit trail)

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The Mentu would be a pretty good cruiser if the AI were smart enough to roll to bring its weapons to bear instead of sitting at whatever orientation it happens to be at when attacked.
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Offline Hades

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The Mentu would be a pretty good cruiser if the AI were smart enough to roll to bring its weapons to bear instead of sitting at whatever orientation it happens to be at when attacked.
And if it actually had any weapons to bear.
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Offline Mars

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*Imagines a Sanctus or Hyperion being attacked by a Mentu, lolbachs a'blazing.

Yeah, no. The Zods would definitely have better cruisers by then, right?

Right?!

EDIT: I know cruisers are basically being phased out, but it stands to reason they'd have some type of light combatant.

 
The Mentu would be a pretty good cruiser if the AI were smart enough to roll to bring its weapons to bear instead of sitting at whatever orientation it happens to be at when attacked.
And if it actually had any weapons to bear.
It has three flaks and 3 AAAs. And its anti-warship beam armament isn't all that much less effective than what you'd find on a Terran cruiser.

 

Offline Mars

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I say again, think Aeolus or Hyperion here, especially the Hyperion. Those SBlues aren't incredibly powerful, but they're enough to kill a cruiser quite quickly (Forced Entry)

 

Offline Drogoth

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Comparing the Sanctus or Hyperion is inherently unfair against the Mentu, different generation of cruisers.

The Aeolus however, is a vastly superior cruiser
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