[Kazan]

it might be using a way of recoding the uvmap that the PCS2 DAE support doesn't understand

[Scooby_Doo]

Found the culprit, I had to re-export the object to 3ds then reimport to clear up the uvmap, not sure exactly what went wrong. 

But I do have another possible bug, when I try to import anything into an existing model, the model completely disappears or the program crashes 
This is with Alpha Jan 4 09 release, the Nov 7 08 release was a lot more stable.

[chief1983]

Yeah the Alpha was probably never supposed to have been used, Kazan started working on the trunk code without Spicious knowing that Kazan was breaking stuff.  So really any build that's the 2.1 Alpha probably won't export very well to pof.  This should be getting taken care of soon though.

[Kazan]

build labeled "alpha" are exactly that

[Scooby_Doo]

Oh dear... the fred crashing problem is back. 

Heres what I did:
1.) Attached (via edit poly->attach) object
2.) export to dae
3.) import to pcs2 & save
4.) load in fred
5.) if stable goto #1
6.) if not stable, go back to max, undo last attach, hide the "Bad piece" and continue on.

I got to a point where no matter what I added on it'll crash fred.
So I took all those "bad pieces" and merged them into one object.  Attached that object via hierarchy link, not poly attach, to the main hull.  Export and converted to pof.  Vola it works in fred.

Am I hitting some sort of limit and with which collada importer or fred?  Detail0 is 16,701 triangles (738 vert).

[Water]

Am I hitting some sort of limit and with which collada importer or fred?  Detail0 is 16,701 triangles (738 vert).

The numbers sound wrong. An average of 22 faces per vextex seems too high.

[Scooby_Doo]

Opps I was looking at something completely different
Polys: 7,367
Tri: 16,701
Vertex: 10,185

[Water]

Opps I was looking at something completely different
Polys: 7,367
Tri: 16,701
Vertex: 10,185

cob format - 20k mesh loaded ok in pcs 2.0.3. Failed as dae. Didn't crash, just wasn't  there when it had finished. (oct12-08 build)

[Scooby_Doo]

I'm using the nov 7, 08 build.  Dunno if there were any stable builds after that.  It works most of the time, which is good enough for me, for now.


I need a suggestion, I'm about to do two launch bays that combined is a mile long, that parts done.  I need to do glowpoints, 2 every 15 meters, which is about 67 glow groups.  What would be the best way to organize them so that I don't have to hunt down each successive group (The callada importer doesn't seem keep them in order)?

[chief1983]

Scooby, the newest 2.0.3-based DAE build I have is Oct 6, 2008.  Can I get the Nov one from you?

[Scooby_Doo]

Unforunately, I don't have the orignial zip file, but I can zip up what's currently in the folder, (theres some DLL's from the newer broken build.)

[chief1983]

The exe is all I need, if you could zip that and email it to me that would work.  It should just be a drop in replacement for the exe I already have.

[Scooby_Doo]

Here you go: http://scoobydoo.freespacemods.net/Completed/Misc/pcs2.exe

[chief1983]

Gracias

[Scooby_Doo]

Could you make a zipped/installer version of it?  Or does someone still have the installer for it?

[chief1983]

The current installation process is described on the Collada Importer wiki page.  Get the regular 2.0.3 installer that Kazan released, the libColladaDOM dll, the VC2008 redist files, and the exe you just posted, and you're set.  If that file will be there a while I might add a link to it to the wiki page, it's the latest 2.0.3 based DAE build I'm aware of.

[Scooby_Doo]

A suggest for future development:  accomadate other units of measure besides the default pixel one.  For example, 1 FS2 meter equals to 1 default unit.  How about adding the ability to use 1 meter instead?   I know the dae file includes which unit of measure is used.  <COLLADA>.<asset>.<unit meter = "x" name = "unit">
It's extermely hard to do small stuff (fighter scale).  I've noticed rendering rounding errors when dealing with it.

[Aardwolf]

Query: where can the latest builds be found?

[chief1983]

The latest stable build I know of is in the wiki article now.  Which is linked to in my sig.  And other places around this thread.

[DaBrain]

Should I post collada-related problems here, or in Mantis?



It looks like the turrets break when I export a DAE from a POF. At least in 3ds one firepoint is missing, the names are wrong and I think the pivots might be wrong as well.

Also there is still the problem with 3ds and the "-node" importing. I really can't open the DAE file from 3ds with a texteditor and look which objects need it, every time I want to convert a model.

Converting a simple ship with a few turrets is currently a pain...