[Luis Dias]

Yeah I remember this shenanigan. When Clinton talked about Bin Laden, the rethuglicans framed it as a "distraction" that Clinton was doing in order to the public "forget" about Monica Lewinsky. 'Coz, dontchaknow, a blow job is waay more important than a terrorist that had already killed hundreds and was able to bomb the twin towers.

****ing politics, always in the way of real business.

[headdie]

****ing politics, always in the way of real business.

In it's purest form democracy is a good system, but as usual human flaws break it and we end up with systems like in the UK and america where anything short of perfect is the greatest sin and sod the fact that the person being brought down is often the better person for the job than the detractors.

[Sushi]

In it's purest form democracy is a good system, but as usual human flaws break it and we end up with systems like in the UK and america where anything short of perfect is the greatest sin and sod the fact that the person being brought down is often the better person for the job than the detractors.

You could say the same thing about just about any type of government. If we didn't have "human flaws" it wouldn't really matter anyway.

[Luis Dias]

Yeah, pure my ass. The arian vision was the only "pure" thing that I recognize in the 20th century. And it sucked.

[Snail]

We should put benevolent supercomputers in power.

[Mongoose]

Yeah, that worked out so well with AM.

[Snail]

Yeah, that worked out so well with AM.

I said benevolent. AM really hates us.

[qazwsx]

You could not begin to comprehend how much he hates us.

[Luis Dias]

What the hell is "AM"?

[General Battuta]

What the hell is "AM"?

I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream

I was reading Bush's memoir 'Decision Points' today. It was surprisingly sympathetic. Obviously I do not agree with many of Bush's large decisions, but it seemed to provide genuine insight into what he was thinking.

[Nuke]

i still maintain that being president is more about balls than brains. thinking should (theoretically, though never in actual practice) be what the legislative branch is supposed to be good at. the executive branch is about action, because if you let the intellectual legislative branch (also in theory since this trait doesn't actually apply to any politician) decide how to act, they will debate whether they should act for years and never do anything. so its up to the president to step up and decide what to do with the information he has in hand. because in that position inaction is worse than stupidity.

[General Battuta]

Well the thing is that the US President, allegedly 'the most powerful man in the world', actually has surprisingly few powers. It's a very limited office in terms of breadth.

[Nuke]

Well the thing is that the US President, allegedly 'the most powerful man in the world', actually has surprisingly few powers. It's a very limited office in terms of breadth.

president has the power to go to war. granted they have to have a reasonable cause to do so, less they fail to get re-elected (or worse impeached). i admit that by itself is hardly enough to make the president the "most powerful man in the world", just somone who could potentially do a lot of damage before he can be stopped. its something he has to answer for. but my original statement still stands, being president is about balls, not brains, reguardless of what (or who ) youre allowed to use them on.

[Kosh]

Well the thing is that the US President, allegedly 'the most powerful man in the world', actually has surprisingly few powers. It's a very limited office in terms of breadth.

Except that during the Bush years something extraordinary happened, the executive and legislative branches more or less merged. If you look at the veto rates, Bush had only a handful which is rather telling. So little was vetoed because so much of the legislation was his to begin with.

[General Battuta]

Well the thing is that the US President, allegedly 'the most powerful man in the world', actually has surprisingly few powers. It's a very limited office in terms of breadth.

president has the power to go to war. granted they have to have a reasonable cause to do so, less they fail to get re-elected (or worse impeached). i admit that by itself is hardly enough to make the president the "most powerful man in the world", just somone who could potentially do a lot of damage before he can be stopped. its something he has to answer for. but my original statement still stands, being president is about balls, not brains, reguardless of what (or who ) youre allowed to use them on.

The President actually can't declare war.    He's able to deploy troops though.

[Kosh]

Well the thing is that the US President, allegedly 'the most powerful man in the world', actually has surprisingly few powers. It's a very limited office in terms of breadth.

president has the power to go to war. granted they have to have a reasonable cause to do so, less they fail to get re-elected (or worse impeached). i admit that by itself is hardly enough to make the president the "most powerful man in the world", just somone who could potentially do a lot of damage before he can be stopped. its something he has to answer for. but my original statement still stands, being president is about balls, not brains, reguardless of what (or who ) youre allowed to use them on.

The President actually can't declare war.    He's able to deploy troops though.

The democrats and republicans surrendered this when they gave him a blank check to go into iraq.

[General Battuta]

Well the thing is that the US President, allegedly 'the most powerful man in the world', actually has surprisingly few powers. It's a very limited office in terms of breadth.

president has the power to go to war. granted they have to have a reasonable cause to do so, less they fail to get re-elected (or worse impeached). i admit that by itself is hardly enough to make the president the "most powerful man in the world", just somone who could potentially do a lot of damage before he can be stopped. its something he has to answer for. but my original statement still stands, being president is about balls, not brains, reguardless of what (or who ) youre allowed to use them on.

The President actually can't declare war.    He's able to deploy troops though.

The democrats and republicans surrendered this when they gave him a blank check to go into iraq.

Congress actually passed an authorization for the war on Iraq.

There's a much better historical argument for the point you're trying to make - look back and see if you can spot it!

[Grizzly]

Hmm.

Wild guess.

Grenada?

[General Battuta]

Hmm.

Wild guess.

Grenada?

Even earlier!

[Kosh]

Mexico to go hunt for Pancho De Villa?