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Title: Trailer
Post by: Goober5000 on October 04, 2008, 02:28:50 pm
Ten years ago, on the first weekend of October, Silent Threat was released.

Unfortunately, Silent Threat: Reborn isn't ready to release yet.  But we have something almost as good. :)


Trailer
FeralHosting (https://porphyrion.feralhosting.com/datacorder/fsport_files/videos/str-trailer.mov) YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJwdkesPRXc)

71.5 MB.  Requires Quicktime, or something that plays MOV files.

Assembly, text captions, and effects were done by Steven Trauger (http://www.stvp.net).  The GTI logo was created by Tom Fetterolf (http://www.formiusdesign.com/) based on a design by Volition.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: lostllama on October 04, 2008, 02:55:23 pm
 :eek: :yes:

I expecially like the credits thing at the end and the Earth/fiery bird motif.

I can't wait! I'm so pants at the original ST...  :doubt: That one mission where you lead the assualt on the GTI station. Maybe this one will be more lenient so I can succeed without lowering the difficulty or cheating.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: SF-Junky on October 04, 2008, 03:50:01 pm
Just too cool to be true! :yes:
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Trivial Psychic on October 04, 2008, 04:46:35 pm
The credits thing at the end was funny... :lol:
They forgot to add the blue screen the-following-trailer-is-rated-for-all-audiences thing at the beginning.  :D
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Goober5000 on October 04, 2008, 05:29:29 pm
The credits thing at the end was funny... :lol:
Thanks. :)

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Though the lack of HTL ships/mediavps was a bit disappointing :(
Funny story behind that.  I had to use the 3.5.5 version of the SCP to record with, because neither retail nor 3.6.9 worked.

This, of course, won't prevent you from using the mediaVPs when playing, however. :)


It might have been better to pick another music track.

That one's been used EVERYWHERE.
Tough. :p  I've wanted to use it in a FreeSpace video ever since I saw it in the Two Towers trailer, and it kept getting pushed back until now.  Besides, it's still good music.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Nuclear1 on October 05, 2008, 01:18:19 pm
Oh, me wants. Now.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Colonol Dekker on October 05, 2008, 02:55:27 pm
The guy in the trailer needs to aim though :nervous:

I've posted positive feednback on youtyube though before i read this thread :D
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mongoose on October 06, 2008, 02:55:04 pm
There was a distinct absence of the vaunted GTD GeeTeeDee.  I'm slightly disappointed.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mars on October 06, 2008, 03:07:24 pm
Can it be easily redone with more graphical effects some day (soon), to appeal to a wider audience?
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Goober5000 on October 06, 2008, 03:17:30 pm
No.  That would require re-recording all the in-game footage.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Galemp on October 06, 2008, 03:20:08 pm
By the time we worked out what was wrong with FRAPS and the new builds, recorded the footage, and edited it together... you'd be able to play it on your own computer. ;)
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: eliex on October 07, 2008, 02:23:57 am
It's a nice trailer.  :yes:
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: MC_Kejml on October 07, 2008, 05:48:03 am
Shiku objected that there is simple dogfighting and not particulary anything very characteristic of the mod, but at my opinion, I liked that after "But they arenť the only enemies" there was a fight against terran ships. Someone who hasnt known the mod can be sorta surprised and thats what I liked a lot.

About the missing GTD - Do you mean the Hades? It was displayed during the last few moments, no ?
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Galemp on October 07, 2008, 07:47:24 am
The original Silent Threat mission 3 had an Orion named "GTD".
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: terran_emperor on October 07, 2008, 12:49:18 pm
Will the GTD *Blank* have a proper name?
Like for instance the GTD Orestes...But no ship exists with that name in the GTA's Database.
You know that old gimmick
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Goober5000 on October 07, 2008, 01:37:34 pm
The "GTD" has been renamed.  Or re-designated, I guess.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Galemp on October 07, 2008, 01:43:42 pm
It's been revealed. :drevil:
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 07, 2008, 02:24:21 pm
Like for instance the GTD Orestes...But no ship exists with that name in the GTA's Database.
Orestes, heh.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Droid803 on October 07, 2008, 06:19:58 pm
Like for instance the GTD Orestes...But no ship exists with that name in the GTA's Database.
Orestes, heh.
Isn't that BP?
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Harbinger of DOOM on October 07, 2008, 07:31:38 pm
I expecially like the credits thing at the end and the Earth/fiery bird motif.
Same here, I'd really like a hi-res of that logo thing.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: terran_emperor on October 07, 2008, 07:59:35 pm
Like for instance the GTD Orestes...But no ship exists with that name in the GTA's Database.
Orestes, heh.
Isn't that BP?

I needed a name thats not used in official FS canon ie in retail FS1, ST and FS2. AND i took the name from an EA ship class from the B5 universe; The Orestes Monitor...

Okay lets say the GTD *blank* is called the GTD Orestes in ST:R

When you encounter the Orestes in mission 3, it had the orders and codes showing that they have the authority to pick up the Einstein's escape pods. However, there is no ship registered with the GTA as the GTD Orestes. So the ship vanishes along with the survivers it picked up.

You know the old "prisoner transfer to a disappearing transport" conspiracy gimmick.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Trivial Psychic on October 07, 2008, 10:12:10 pm
You know the old "prisoner transfer to a disappearing transport" conspiracy gimmick.
B5, Season 2, Episode 2, "Revelations"
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: terran_emperor on October 07, 2008, 10:18:29 pm
Yes just like that. Has that been actively included in ST:R? - That you are informed that according to official listings there is no ship called the GTD *Whatever*
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Galemp on October 07, 2008, 10:32:54 pm
I expecially like the credits thing at the end and the Earth/fiery bird motif.
Same here, I'd really like a hi-res of that logo thing.

Thanks. A friend of Goober's (whose name escapes me at the moment) modeled it, and I animated it. It's the official GTI Insignia.

And, ah... how big did you want it, again? ;7
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: lostllama on October 08, 2008, 07:59:19 am
It's the official GTI Insignia.

Oh right. It reminds me of the insignia on the side of that Herc in FS2's intro cutscene.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Galemp on October 08, 2008, 08:52:06 am
DING DING DING! We have a winner!
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Goober5000 on October 08, 2008, 01:40:54 pm
I've split off the music discussion into its own separate thread (http://www.hard-light.net/forums/index.php/topic,57000.0.html).  Let's keep this one on topic. :)
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mars on October 09, 2008, 06:58:35 pm
Oh...

So that's why there was a dead Hades there.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 10, 2008, 10:39:30 am
Okay lets say the GTD *blank* is called the GTD Orestes in ST:R
I see absolutely no reason for giving the much-loved GeeTeeDee a less catchy unofficial name.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 11, 2008, 09:49:43 pm
But to call it the GTD GeeTeeDee looks weird coming from a remake of a canon campaign, especially since Axem's used it in JAD2:EB already.

Perhaps it should be called GTD Sesquipedalian. :drevil:

...just kidding. How about a word with the three letters in it?
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: General Battuta on October 12, 2008, 10:04:31 am
So something going on in the FS2 intro cutscene relates to GTI? Presumably also explaining how a Hades ended up crashed there?
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Galemp on October 12, 2008, 10:41:54 am
Go watch the FS2 intro again. Then come back.

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Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 12, 2008, 10:52:03 am
So the fighter was a GTI fighter? Nice.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mobius on October 12, 2008, 10:55:15 am
I'd like to have that squadron logo, I have always loved it...
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mars on October 12, 2008, 11:02:04 am
Well it also explains why the Hades was on that planet, the battle between the Hades and GTA forces takes place in Deneb.

It is also interesting that that's where the Ancient information that enabled Bosch to turn on the Konossos was found.

We also see a science cruiser that could well be the Einstien in front of the construction platform the Hades is in.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 12, 2008, 11:04:26 am
It also supports the notion the Legion was at the Battle of Deneb if there were GTI fighters there.

It all makes sense.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mars on October 12, 2008, 11:05:46 am
Well the Legion was shown to have been destroyed by the Lucifer.

Maybe the Legion was GTI?
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mobius on October 12, 2008, 11:06:45 am
Things may make sense but I still want that squadron logo!
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 12, 2008, 11:07:53 am
Maybe the Legion was GTI?
Err.

The Legion was the flagship of GTI R&D wasn't it? (according to some mythic interview)
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Rick James on October 12, 2008, 11:23:07 am
I would like to point out that the destroyer in the FS2 intro cutscene was never officially named by Volition. Some player asked them if it could be called "Legion" and Volition basically said "Yeah, sure, why the hell not?"
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mobius on October 12, 2008, 11:30:12 am
So...it's fanon accepted by :v:?
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: terran_emperor on October 12, 2008, 11:34:58 am
Basically...Yeah :yes:
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 12, 2008, 11:36:34 am
So really it could be called anything, but the most commonly accepted name is Legion...
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Rick James on October 12, 2008, 11:36:49 am
So...it's fanon accepted by :v:?

From the Hard-Light wiki on the GTD Legion:

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An Orion-class destroyer is shown being destroyed by the SD Lucifer in the FreeSpace 2 intro cutscene. Volition was fairly clear this ship was not the Galatea. A community member asked if the ship could be called the Legion. Volition responded, "Call it that if you want," so the ship is generally referred to as the Legion.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: terran_emperor on October 12, 2008, 11:42:17 am
So really it could be called anything, but the most commonly accepted name is Legion...

Yeah for all we know the designer of cutscene could have intended it to be the Llanfair...??? you know that town in Wales with the insanely long name, the one that Da Goob used in DEM. But in the fan community it is more commonly known as the Legion...which is a great deal easiar to spell and pronounce
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 12, 2008, 11:52:24 am
Try using the full chemical name of Titin, perhaps... :drevil:
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mobius on October 12, 2008, 12:14:14 pm
A community member asked if the ship could be called the Legion. Volition responded, "Call it that if you want," so the ship is generally referred to as the Legion.

Meh...Legion...he should have said Snuffleupagus... :doubt:
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: terran_emperor on October 12, 2008, 12:37:03 pm
Or Carl, TrashMan or Mobius

BTW mobius, how come your name is no-longer in rainbow effect?
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Meanwhile, back on topic any chance of that squad logo being released?
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mobius on October 12, 2008, 12:44:02 pm
Nope...Mobius could be an appropriate name for a science cruiser, though...
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 12, 2008, 01:14:56 pm
Nope...Mobius could be an appropriate name for a science cruiser, though...
Or as a faction... :nervous:

*runs*
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mobius on October 12, 2008, 01:18:26 pm
Seriously, August Ferdinand Mobius was a mathematician(or whatever it's spelled)...

As for the faction, let's keep INFA out from this discussion :nervous:
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Goober5000 on October 12, 2008, 01:23:00 pm
Meanwhile, back on topic any chance of that squad logo being released?
Maybe.  If you prove yourselves worthy... :drevil:
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: General Battuta on October 12, 2008, 01:34:06 pm
I wonder if you'll play through the battle of Deneb, watch the Legion be destroyed, and then see one of your wingmates shot down by a Manticore.

That'd be interesting.

EDIT: except you're not a GTI pilot in ST:R, are you. Whoops.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 12, 2008, 02:10:46 pm
I wonder if you'll play through the battle of Deneb, watch the Legion be destroyed, and then see one of your wingmates shot down by a Manticore.

That'd be interesting.

EDIT: except you're not a GTI pilot in ST:R, are you. Whoops.
And it's set after the Lucy destruction anyway so it wouldn't happen.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Galemp on October 12, 2008, 05:33:42 pm
Maybe the Legion was GTI?
Err.

The Legion was the flagship of GTI R&D wasn't it? (according to some mythic interview)

In our storyline the Legion is the GTI flagship, mobile headquarters, internal affairs coordinator and liason with the GTA.

You can imagine how its loss at the Battle of Deneb would complicate things.

And you are, in fact, a pilot for the GTI in Silent Threat and ST:R. It's the whole point, really.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: blowfish on October 12, 2008, 06:17:52 pm
Yeah.  It's not the entire GTI that goes rogue, just part of it.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mars on October 12, 2008, 07:33:07 pm
Well this whole campaign isn't canon, and it would make sense for ST:R to name it the Legion, if it was involved with their campaign, because it's one of the closest things we have to fanon right now.

If they didn't, I'd understand, but unless they had a purpose for not calling it the Legion, I'd be downright confused as to why.

So the Legion is fighting the Shivans in the midst of the Great War why? I mean, I think they started the war somehow, but you'd think they'd let the GTA take the brunt of the attack once the Shivans actually attacked...

Or was it the Shivans who attacked the GTI? Was something the GTI doing the motivation for the Shivans to attack? In that case why did they attack the Vasudans and the GTA?
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 12, 2008, 07:40:05 pm
:confused:

I always thought that GTI was part of the GTA. If the Shivans attack the GTA, they would attack the GTI too.

It's also good to remember that Shivans are xenocidal; by default, they will kill an entire species and take no prisoners.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: terran_emperor on October 12, 2008, 08:39:51 pm
Well, it like the CIA connection to the US goverment.

GTI is the intellgence agency of the GTA
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mongoose on October 12, 2008, 09:01:18 pm
When you're talking about taking on something like the Lucifer, any Orion is presumably fair game to get deployed, GTI or not.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mobius on October 17, 2008, 05:07:22 am
Why would the GTA deploy a GTI destroyer to face a Shivan group led by the Lucifer?

No doubt a GTI destroyer is far more precious than a regular have. It carries special equipment, systems and weapons(all to be used in covert operations and such). I don't see the point in wasting such a warship in a "regular" battle.

...unless the GTI's tasks go well beyond that of a normal Intelligence.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 17, 2008, 07:42:56 am
Sometimes, sacrifices must be made to ensure the success of a larger operation (cue Ronald Weasly in Harry Potter and the Sorceror's/Philosopher's Stone).
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 17, 2008, 07:58:06 am
...unless the GTI's tasks go well beyond that of a normal Intelligence.
Perhaps the rogue Terran intelligence branch had a hidden motive in deploying the Legion, but got too close or underestimated the Lucifer's offensive capabilities.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Akalabeth Angel on October 18, 2008, 02:25:24 am
Why would the GTA deploy a GTI destroyer to face a Shivan group led by the Lucifer?

No doubt a GTI destroyer is far more precious than a regular have. It carries special equipment, systems and weapons(all to be used in covert operations and such). I don't see the point in wasting such a warship in a "regular" battle.

        Um, because . . . we're talking about the complete extinction of the human race maybe?
       
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 18, 2008, 03:22:23 am
Vasudan race, actually, in that particular battle.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Galemp on October 18, 2008, 11:55:50 am
Why would the GTA deploy a GTI destroyer to face a Shivan group led by the Lucifer?

No doubt a GTI destroyer is far more precious than a regular have. It carries special equipment, systems and weapons...


Including, perhaps, some that they wanted to try to breach the Lucifer's shields with?
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 18, 2008, 12:01:19 pm
Maybe this is when "the Lucifer attacked the Vasudan outpost in the Diones system, and the Vasudans three different missile prototypes, with no luck whatsoever." But of course that would've been a Vasudan destroyer not the Legion...
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Mars on October 22, 2008, 01:03:51 pm
wtf is that "quote" from?
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 23, 2008, 12:58:15 am
Isn't that FS1?
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 23, 2008, 10:05:58 am
wtf is that "quote" from?
The FreeSpace Ref Bible (the canonicity of which debatable)
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Galemp on October 23, 2008, 11:00:59 am
Debatable? How? It's the Word of :v:. If anything in there isn't contradicted by what we see in-game, I'd say it's canon.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 23, 2008, 11:20:28 am
Debatable? How? It's the Word of :v:. If anything in there isn't contradicted by what we see in-game, I'd say it's canon.
That's my view too, I only said it so Mars wouldn't take out the forks.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: terran_emperor on October 23, 2008, 11:37:25 am
Galemp and i have the same view of the ref bible
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 23, 2008, 12:02:25 pm
Galemp and i have the same view of the ref bible
Me too! :(
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Androgeos Exeunt on October 23, 2008, 08:21:21 pm
I like the FSRefBible. Nice concept art they got there. :)
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Rick James on October 24, 2008, 12:28:15 am
Maybe this is when "the Lucifer attacked the Vasudan outpost in the Diones system, and the Vasudans three different missile prototypes, with no luck whatsoever." But of course that would've been a Vasudan destroyer not the Legion...

And that the intro text during the FS2 intro identifies it as the Battle of Deneb.
Title: Re: Trailer
Post by: Snail on October 24, 2008, 05:41:10 am
Diones was never identified. It could be the Vasudan name for Deneb is what I'm getting at here.