[SpardaSon21]

Yes, Valathil is trying to get glowpoint lighting in tables instead of .pof files.

[Darius]

Here you go
http://www.mediafire.com/?tzyzg91iyjanj5a

[SaltyWaffles]

Darius:

That model doesn't have a fighter bay--am I confused or is that an actual error?

EDIT: I mean physically; it has the subsystem and--thankfully--in a place you can actually reach/get to. If it was done for optimization/performance reasons, I've no complaints. Just curious.

[Aesaar]

There's just a door in the way.

[SaltyWaffles]

There's just a door in the way.

Is that intentional? And inside/past the door, there is other detail/geometry missing from the figherbay that was there in previous versions.

EDIT: Okay, did the nameplate/eagle texture extract and copy trick, and it seems to be working well again...except one thing has me worried. I played Collateral Damage with the updated model, and this time the Akula was destroyed well before the Regensburg and Cardinal were driven off by the Ranvir. Is it killing itself with its torps again?

[GSV_Eltrium]

Most of the subobjects have a radius of 0 or close to that, which is what's causing the issue.  Open up KarunaMk1.pof in PCS2, select each subobject, and reset max radius.

EDIT: I've taken the liberty of uploading a fixed version.

Oh CRAP. That file was deleted. Uhhhh... help?

[Aesaar]

Use the link in the first post.

[Phantom Hoover]

Yeah, the currently-linked model is the fixed one the team are using for WiH2 development.

[SaltyWaffles]

Recently did a casual playthrough of DE with the current model, and the Katana and AO (especially the Katana) seem to die awfully quickly, even when beam cannons are promptly disabled. I'll do a closer look soon, but just thought I'd see if it was just me...

[General Battuta]

No, I don't think it is. I gave them some extra armor on SVN. They seem to get really chewed up by flak baths/fusion mortars.

[SaltyWaffles]

No, I don't think it is. I gave them some extra armor on SVN. They seem to get really chewed up by flak baths/fusion mortars.

I thought flak does minimal damage to ships with BP's Heavy Armor? For the fusion mortars--aren't there only two Leviathan's in DE? One of which is (IIRC) slightly behind the Carthage, to boot. With only a 2000 meter range and a100 m/s velocity, could it really be doing that much damage?

[Black_Yoshi1230]

No, I don't think it is. I gave them some extra armor on SVN. They seem to get really chewed up by flak baths/fusion mortars.

I thought flak does minimal damage to ships with BP's Heavy Armor? For the fusion mortars--aren't there only two Leviathan's in DE? One of which is (IIRC) slightly behind the Carthage, to boot. With only a 2000 meter range and a 100 m/s velocity, could it really be doing that much damage?

I've seen the Systema get a reported kill on the Katana quite a bit even after the maddening disarming phase (when they say "push the attack!") then I get a "crap, we lost the Katana!" and had to start over from that about six times.

[General Battuta]

No, I don't think it is. I gave them some extra armor on SVN. They seem to get really chewed up by flak baths/fusion mortars.

I thought flak does minimal damage to ships with BP's Heavy Armor? For the fusion mortars--aren't there only two Leviathan's in DE? One of which is (IIRC) slightly behind the Carthage, to boot. With only a 2000 meter range and a100 m/s velocity, could it really be doing that much damage?

Thanks for your thoughts, man, my empirical testing must have been completely deceiving me.

[SaltyWaffles]

No, I don't think it is. I gave them some extra armor on SVN. They seem to get really chewed up by flak baths/fusion mortars.

I thought flak does minimal damage to ships with BP's Heavy Armor? For the fusion mortars--aren't there only two Leviathan's in DE? One of which is (IIRC) slightly behind the Carthage, to boot. With only a 2000 meter range and a100 m/s velocity, could it really be doing that much damage?

Thanks for your thoughts, man, my empirical testing must have been completely deceiving me.

No...I'm sorry if I misconveyed my question, but I was asking how (based on your knowledge/empirical testing/experience) that outcome occurs in spite of the fusion mortar's range/speed/prevalence issues, along with the (possibly mistaken, so if I'm wrong by all means correct me, please) flak damage reduction to Heavy Armor. I wasn't trying to imply that it doesn't happen--just that I was confused as to how it actually does happen.

Also:
  The UEF's worst nightmare: Bringing back the Fenris swarm, supported by kamikaze Atens.

[General Battuta]

I'm pretty sure heavy armor has no special modifiers vs flak, it's just got a universal reduction on spawn weapon damage (like Slammer children).

[General Battuta]

Think we can unpin this

[Phantom Hoover]

yeah probably