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Offline Kie99

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I wouldn't take tech descriptions that aren't seen ingame as entirely accurate, considering what's written in the Ares and and Zephyrus's descriptions.
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Could you expand on that? I'm not seeing anything wrong, unless you mean the light humor.
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Indeed. Are you by chance referring to the fact that it is inaccurate to say that the Ares handles like a potato, since there have been very few tests concerning the maneuvering capabilities of a potato in outer space?
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Indeed. Are you by chance referring to the fact that it is inaccurate to say that the Ares handles like a potato, since there have been very few tests concerning the maneuvering capabilities of a potato in outer space?

To look at it realistically, all a potato does in space is fly straight; an Ares can fly in all directions.
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Offline Kie99

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Could you expand on that? I'm not seeing anything wrong, unless you mean the light humor.

Exactly, it's taking the piss, I don't think an official GTVA document on the abilities of a spacecraft would refer to a fighter as handling like a potato.
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Perhaps they have potatoes with small thrusters for some reason in the 2300's...?

BTW- back to the Shivan Seige Cannon, aka Maus Tank of Freespace, aka Lilith:

What if most civilizations the Shivans were fighting never invested huge amounts in creating strike craft that really strike, and really heavy armor on the LRed turret or heavy anti-fighter defense was never needed until they've met the GTVA with a load of Maxims and Trebs?
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Perhaps they have potatoes with small thrusters for some reason in the 2300's...?

BTW- back to the Shivan Seige Cannon, aka Maus Tank of Freespace, aka Lilith:

What if most civilizations the Shivans were fighting never invested huge amounts in creating strike craft that really strike, and really heavy armor on the LRed turret or heavy anti-fighter defense was never needed until they've met the GTVA with a load of Maxims and Trebs?


You might have a point there. Keep in mind that they are not us, so they might think differently. Perhaps they thought: "Why build small insects that can be blown up in an instant when you can build something that's bigger, better, stronger?"
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Actually, the way you say it, having a cruiser with a BFG is a pretty good surprise to have in the wings. I mean, the Lilith handles like a cruiser but hits like a destroyer. Its size means that in an initial encounter, it would be discounted, and its similarity to the Cain would make an unassuming opponent assume its just a Cain variant.
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Exactly, it's taking the piss, I don't think an official GTVA document on the abilities of a spacecraft would refer to a fighter as handling like a potato.

Beg differ, it was written for pilots and probably by pilots so it makes sense it sounds like...a pilot.
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Yeah, the techroom is written for you, a pilot.
I would be guessing an official document for a captain of a capital ship would be different.
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Offline Kie99

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Exactly, it's taking the piss, I don't think an official GTVA document on the abilities of a spacecraft would refer to a fighter as handling like a potato.

Beg differ, it was written for pilots and probably by pilots so it makes sense it sounds like...a pilot.

None of the ones visible in the techroom have a similar tone to the ones for the Zephyrus and Ares.
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Yeah, the techroom is written for you, a pilot.
I would be guessing an official document for a captain of a capital ship would be different.

He would probably get the tables on FSWiki that detail the ship's default loadout, max velocity, max burn velocity, and so on.
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When there's a cruiser that hits like a destroyer, I'm waiting for a destroyer hittin like a cruiser... then again, we have the Hecate.

The Hecate has a lot of firepower... it just can't bring it all to bear on any particular target.

 

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I think the Hecate was supposed to be able to hit at targets from all directions. Jack of all trades, master of none. :p
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From the looks of it, the Hecate is a carrier/command center, so its more well rounded, being able to handle fighters, bombers, cruisers, and corvettes - the things it'll most likely be facing. It'd leave the Destroyer-Destroyer combat to Orions.

Well, Liliths? The Hecate's ****ed. Its a wolf in sheep's clothing...kinda. Looking like the most worthless Shivan cruiser, while actually being the bane of destroyers and corvettes alike.
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From the looks of it, the Hecate is a carrier/command center, so its more well rounded, being able to handle fighters, bombers, cruisers, and corvettes - the things it'll most likely be facing. It'd leave the Destroyer-Destroyer combat to Orions.

Well, Liliths? The Hecate's ****ed. Its a wolf in sheep's clothing...kinda. Looking like the most worthless Shivan cruiser, while actually being the bane of destroyers and corvettes alike.

Now that you mention it, the Hecate has, what, four to five engines? How did a single cruiser and its fighter escort disable all of them? Given the Aquitaine's hull integrity at the start of Argonautica, the SC Urobach can't have been a Lilith-class.
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Actually, it has seven.  Only four engine subsystems though.

 

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Actually, it has seven.  Only four engine subsystems though.

Definitely not a Lilith's work of art. :p
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I think most of the Hecate's firepower lies in its strike fighter squadrons.
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