[ghostshrike1]

I looked in the forums for a thread to answer this question and couldn't find one. Anyway, I used the autoinstaller (keep in mind that I ended up handling the downloading overnight and my phone card connection tends to die every so often so I'm not sure I got the whole thing) and it said it finished when I woke up this morning, but nothing seems to have changed. I tried using the open launcher in the freespace2 folder; and it worked (it think... kinda), but it also said... I can't remember what it said, and my fiddling with it seems to have cancelled out that particular message. Something about "bini in the same directory" or other. Using FS2's start menu launcher didn't work obviously. I really loved FS2's original version and I'd really like to see what the new graphics have done with it, so any help would be much appreciated.

[General Battuta]

Could you post a FreeSpace 2 Open log file? Run a debug build (should look like 3.6.12_INF_d.exe), then go into your /data/ subfolder and grab fs2_open.log. Post it here.

That will give us your setup so we can figure out the problem.

(Did you select mediavps_3612 as a mod?)

[ghostshrike1]

I couldn't find the debugger, but I tried applying the mod.
This is what happened when I tried to apply the media vps mod...

Weapon explosion 'Subach_Impact' does not have an LOD0 anim!
<no module>! KiFastSystemCallRet
<no module>! WaitForSingleObject + 18 bytes
<no module>! SCP_DumpStack + 354 bytes
<no module>! Warning + 430 bytes
<no module>! weapon_explosions::Load + 296 bytes
<no module>! parse_weapon + 7848 bytes
<no module>! parse_weaponstbl + 172 bytes
<no module>! parse_modular_table + 267 bytes
<no module>! weapon_init + 101 bytes
<no module>! game_init + 1900 bytes
<no module>! game_main + 519 bytes
<no module>! WinMain + 330 bytes
<no module>! __tmainCRTStartup + 358 bytes
<no module>! WinMainCRTStartup + 15 bytes
<no module>! RegisterWaitForInputIdle + 73 bytes

It gave an option to use the debugger and when I did fs2 open crashed or so windows said.

[chief1983]

I'm gonna move this to support, and let them handle this.

[ghostshrike1]

And here's the log you asked for.. I hope.

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==========================================================================
DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
==========================================================================
FreeSpace version: 3.6.12
Passed cmdline options:
  -spec_exp 8.2
  -spec_static 3.5
  -spec_point 8.6
  -spec_tube 1.0
  -ambient_factor 70
  -mipmap
  -missile_lighting
  -glow
  -spec
  -targetinfo
  -snd_preload
  -mod MediaVPs_3612
Building file index...
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\MediaVPs_3612\3613_Update.vp' with a checksum of 0x19cf9a3d
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa11d56f1
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd77da83a
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x86920b82
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x705e8d71
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d
Found root pack 'd:\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e
Found root pack 'd:\tangoA_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x2e10c984
Found root pack 'd:\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d
Searching root 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\MediaVPs_3612\' ... 0 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\MediaVPs_3612\3613_Update.vp' ... 18 files
Searching root 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\' ... 46 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' ... 1337 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\stu_fs2.vp' ... 2355 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango1_fs2.vp' ... 32 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango2_fs2.vp' ... 15 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango3_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files
Searching root 'd:\' ... 3 files
Searching root pack 'd:\tango1_fs2.vp' ... 32 files
Searching root pack 'd:\tangoA_fs2.vp' ... 0 files
Searching root pack 'd:\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files
Found 16 roots and 7146 files.
Setting language to English
Initializing OpenAL...
  Using 'Generic Software' as OpenAL sound device...
  OpenAL Vendor     : Creative Labs Inc.
  OpenAL Renderer   : Software
  OpenAL Version    : 1.1

... OpenAL successfully initialized!
Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 640x480 with 16-bit color...
  Initializing WGL...
  Requested WGL Video values = R: 5, G: 6, B: 5, depth: 16, double-buffer: 1
  Actual WGL Video values    = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
  OpenGL Vendor     : NVIDIA Corporation
  OpenGL Renderer   : GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X/AGP/SSE2
  OpenGL Version    : 1.4.0

  Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object".
  Unable to find extension "GL_EXT_pixel_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap".
  Unable to find extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_NV_texture_rectangle".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias".
  Using extension "NV_point_sprite".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_shading_language_100".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_shader_objects".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_vertex_shader".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader".
  Unable to find extension "GL_ATI_shader_texture_lod".
  Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT".

  Max texture units: 2 (2)
  Max elements vertices: 4096
  Max elements indices: 4096
  Max texture size: 2048x2048
  Can use compressed textures: YES
  Texture compression available: YES
  Using trilinear texture filter.
... OpenGL init is complete!
Size of bitmap info = 760 KB
Size of bitmap extra info = 52 bytes
ANI cursorweb with size 24x24 (25.0% wasted)
GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
SCRIPTING: Beginning initialization sequence...
SCRIPTING: Beginning Lua initialization...
LUA: Opening LUA state...
LUA: Initializing base Lua libraries...
LUA: Beginning ADE initialization
ADE: Initializing enumeration constants...
ADE: Assigning Lua session...
SCRIPTING: Beginning main hook parse sequence....
Wokka!  Error opening file (scripting.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'scripting.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_exp-sct.tbm' ...
SCRIPTING: Inititialization complete.
SCRIPTING: Splash screen overrides checked
SCRIPTING: Splash hook has been run
SCRIPTING: Splash screen conditional hook has been run
Using high memory settings...
Wokka!  Error opening file (interface.tbl)!
WMCGUI: Unable to parse 'interface.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
ANI radar1 with size 130x106 (17.2% wasted)
CFILE: Created new directory 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\MediaVPs_3612\data\'
Windows reported 16 joysticks, we found 1
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
Wokka!  Error opening file (armor.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
TBM  =>  Starting parse of 'mv_effects-wep.tbm' ...
WARNING: "Weapon explosion 'Subach_Impact' does not have an LOD0 anim!" at weapons.cpp:180
Int3(): From c:\temp\fs2_final_export\code\globalincs\windebug.cpp at line 1277
Use code tags for great justice -- The E

oh, and a minor disclaimer;

While I'm a fair hand with some things, I'm also a little slow on the uptake sometimes when it comes to stuff like this, so sorry in advance if a fumble around a little every now and then.

[General Battuta]

Okay, somebody broke the installer bad. The 3.6.13 update for the MVPs is present but the rest of the MVPs aren't.

You have two options. Delete the 3.6.13 update folder, and play the game with no graphical upgrades.

Or, download the 3.6.12 MediaVPs from the FreeSpace Upgrade Project board, place them in mediavps_3612, and enjoy the shiny goodness.

What else did the installer grab? Do you have fsport, blueplanet, blueplanet2, derelict, transcend, any of those folders?

[The E]

Okay, there are a few issues here.

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Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\MediaVPs_3612\3613_Update.vp' with a checksum of 0x19cf9a3d
The mediavps didn'T install correctly. Please run the installer again.

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Found root pack 'd:\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e
Found root pack 'd:\tangoA_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x2e10c984
Found root pack 'd:\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d
You don't need the disc in the drive.

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Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 640x480 with 16-bit color...
  Initializing WGL...
  Requested WGL Video values = R: 5, G: 6, B: 5, depth: 16, double-buffer: 1
  Actual WGL Video values    = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
  OpenGL Vendor     : NVIDIA Corporation
  OpenGL Renderer   : GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X/AGP/SSE2
  OpenGL Version    : 1.4.0
OMG. Please set the resolution and colour depth to at least 1024x768 and 32 bits, respectively. Also, that GPU is just barely in the minimum specs for this game.

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Unable to find extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two".
This may become a problem.

[ghostshrike1]

Okay...
Battuta; I have Freespace/ Silent Threat's retail variants and my connection is fairly problematic as to bandwidth (seriously, 6 six hours for the Media VPs and open alone) so I kept it really streamlined.

In light of what the E said though I might not upgrade it after all and opt to wait till I can get a new computer... which leads me to my final question.

If I uninstall Freespace 2 and then delete what's left of the folder from the games directory, that should clear everything up, right? I'm not worried about losing anything since this is a fresh install.

Oh, one more thing... are any of the TC mods freestanding so I can still play them regardless of which FS2 version I'm running?

[chief1983]

You can play without the graphical enhancements by just selecting 'No Mod' in the launcher.  Then you don't really need to delete anything.

A 'TC' is generally freestanding around here, but I don't think any of those are available with the installer.  The only released TCs are The Babylon Project, the BtRL demo and Wing Commander Saga Prologue, I think.  There's also The Minbari Project but that's using a significantly modified fork of the FSO engine.

[ghostshrike1]

I've already removed everything, and I'll use a friend's connection when I get a new machine. Thanks for all the help and advice.

[General Battuta]

All right. Good luck, and come back soon!

You know, there are people with crappier cards who still play and enjoy the game...a fair number of them, even. It's reasonably scaleable.