Poll

Do you use Intelgrated graphics for FS2?

Yes (Old generations)
7 (7.6%)
Yes (i3 and i5 processor integrated)
7 (7.6%)
No (Nvidia)
41 (44.6%)
No (ATI)
37 (40.2%)
No (Different option)
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 92

Voting closed: April 02, 2011, 01:23:37 pm

Author Topic: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options  (Read 8590 times)

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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
GeForce 9800 GTX

 

Offline Kolgena

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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
Radeon 3650 HD mobility. 30% overclock, since the OEM underclocked it by a huge chunk.

Runs the game mostly fine at 1080p maxed out. Things chug when lots of hull is in the scene (due to new fragment shaders) and from head.anis.

 

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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
Wow , I envy your video cards xD
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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
NVIDIA 9600 GSO

 

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Nvidia 260GTX, bought it as a quick replacement for my dead 8800GTX
Will get something new when I upgrade my pc (soonish)
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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
NVIDIA GeForce GT 330M

 
Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
Discrete. nVidia GeForce GTX 295. She purrs like a walrus when running FS Open (especially BP), but the gameplay is butter smooth.

 

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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
the results of the poll are ****ing hilarious.
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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
Why, because it says basically we can say "too bad" to all (5 of) the poor sods with intelgrated chips and tell them to get something that isn't crap? :P
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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
Nvidia GeForce GTS250-1Gb-Zalman Cooled, Over-Clocked here (GPU:821Mhz; Memory:1102Mhz; Shader:1944Mhz), Running MVP Advanced without problems.

Probably a little to much info but thought it might help especially as people may have modded cards. :beamz:


Edit: I used to have an Nvidia GeForce 7300 GT, which worked ok (did not work with MVP Advanced to slow)

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« Last Edit: March 24, 2011, 02:53:14 am by Aramil »
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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
Used to have Radeon 4870 1GB, got tired of it's loud fan so swapped it recently to Radeon 6850 1GB, Asus DirectCU. Why is this even a poll? Screw intelgrated users or anyone with pre-DirectX 9/OpenGL 2.1 cards. What is obsolete is obsolete.

Still, don't be too obsessed with video card. As long as it's decent OpenGL 2.1 (DirectX9) compatible card, it shouldn't have performance problems. I'd be more concerned with CPU performance once OGL 2.1 specification is met.

 

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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
Fury, you're just being an elitist asshole here. You know that, right ?

First, we don't necessarily all have the money to buy ourselves high-end computers. Second, think about netbook users, netbooks with real GPUs are prohibitively expensive. Third, if you just think "screw them", then screw you.
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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
I'm always an asshole and I don't really care either. FSO doesn't need a high-end computer, a decent discrete graphics cards doesn't cost much. Brand-new low-end discrete graphics card can cost as little as 50€ and probably as much in USD since europeans always get screwed over with product prices. You can get much better discrete card for same price if you buy an used one.

If you cannot afford that, then how can you afford to keep the computer on as it uses electricity? And netbooks? Really? Seriously? Reality check fails you. If a mod runs on intelgrated without problems, then great. If not, so what. They've chosen their fate and I don't see why mod developers need to go out of their way to indulge them.

 

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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
I'm always an asshole and I don't really care either. FSO doesn't need a high-end computer, a decent discrete graphics cards doesn't cost much. Brand-new low-end discrete graphics card can cost as little as 50€ and probably as much in USD since europeans always get screwed over with product prices. You can get much better discrete card for same price if you buy an used one.

you fail there fury, take my rig as an example, the mobo only supports upto  AGP x8 so the very best i can put in my rig is a GF 7series, to upgrade beyond that would require new mobo and chip as well as the card also probably need new hard drive and optical drives as they are all IDE, believe me i would love to upgrade but finances with my family don't go to that far.
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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
So what's stopping you from getting Radeon 3650, 4650 or GF7 AGP variants? All should be available somewhere close(ish) 50 bucks, used ones below. And all of them smoke any intelgrateds by far. AGP slot isn't an excuse. You were saying?

 

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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
NVIDIA GeForce 9400M on my Mac... (and I have no idea what the difference is between integrated and discreet. :lol:)
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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
Basically, an integrated chip is hardwired into your motherboard and uses the system RAM as VRAM. This typically means that a portion of the system RAM is permanently assigned to the GPU. A discrete chip comes with dedicated RAM. For example, my old Laptop had an integrated Radeon X1250, which meant that 256MB of system RAM were unavailable, as it was used by the GPU. My current system, a Radeon Mobile 5470, comes with its own gig of RAM. Due to having to share memory bandwidth with the rest of the system, integrated GPUs are several orders of magnitude slower than their dedicated cousins (And Intel graphics chips suck ass in general anyway).

IMHO, while it's certainly good practice to make sure your mod runs playably on lower-end systems, you should not start to restrict yourself to catering only to the low end. I'm sorry, Intel users, but as Fury said, if you want to do real gaming, get better Hardware. For me, while it's certainly cool to know that FSO runs well n netbooks, that's more of a curiosity than a design goal.

For me, the lowest end one should try to design for are the few remaining cards that can handle OGL 2/DirectX 9c/Shader Model 2, everything below that means sacrificing a lot of potential prettyness on the altar of performance.
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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
Radeon HD4890 here. The CPU is usually the bottleneck on my rig (a good old Core2duo E4400 with 2GB of RAM)

 

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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
Radeon X1950 AGP desktop, HD 3200 PCI-E Integrated on laptop

Strange thing is I like nVidia better...

 

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Re: Poll: Intelgrated/Graphics Options
GeForce 8800 GT on my desktop. But this baby is slowly getting old :(

And my Notebook (which runs even WiH pretty smoothly) has a Geforce 320M chip integrated.
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