[chief1983]

Wasn't Mackie voiced by Ransom?

[General Battuta]

Wasn't Mackie voiced by Ransom?

Yes. He went on to do excellent voice work on somewhat different characters in many other mods, including his own.

[Snail]

Derelict was cool. First user-made campaign I played. (I think)

[Kosh]

Derelict still has something of a cult behind it because for many of us, including myself, it was one of the first use-made campaigns we played and for its time it truely was better than anything else available. But times changed and the community evolved, and so it was inevitable that Derelict, which was and still is to an extent the gold standard by which everything new would be measured against, would be surpassed, and not just in mission design but also dialogue and storytelling.

But no matter what else comes out, Derelict is the timeless classic that will always have that special place in our Freespace directories.

[Jeff Vader]

i like wings of dawn.

[Snail]

i like wings of dawn.

ur not alone

[SpardaSon21]

Wings of Dawn is indeed awesome.

[0rph3u5]

Actually there is no "BEST/MOST EPIC CAMPAIGN EVAR!" - It is a peer-depened category ...

Derelict is good if you apply the FS2 main campaign as baseline; 
BP: AoA had already Derelict as baseline to be compared to that is why it can be considered a better campaign;
BP: WiH (release 1) has evene to beat a baseline set by AoA...

and that is why you actually can't create an objective criteria to compare Derelict and BP: AoA:

To start that comparision you need a baseline, and since BP: AoA did come to exist in an evoirment in which Derelict arleady existed, all criteria must at least be constructed with Derelict their baseline ...


EDIT: that fact that I'm influnced by great campaigns emerging all around me is part of reason I just don't get another one done... I just can't stop raising my minimum requirements (causing things like this to get scrapped)...

[redsniper]

How did this happen? I mean hell, I just clicked some upgrade button because FB was saying old-format groups would be pruned. I guess it must have notified EVERYONE who was ever a member.

[Mongoose]

The clear lesson here is that SGWPII is the Greatest Campaign Ever.

[Drogoth]

Yeah I don't get why there has to be a flame war here, both Derelict and BP are excellent mods.

I personally had a few reservations about the background theme to BP, but I also had a few reservations about a couple of things in Derelict. Both create excellent atmosphere, both have excellent stories. As a general newbie on the forums (i played the game since it was released, only started mods when i joined up here a few months ago) I haven't had widespread playing on all the mods... but I've yet to find any that were discernibly ****tier then any other, and I've certainly enjoyed all the ones i've played immensely.

[SpardaSon21]

You've never played SGWP2 then.

[Fury]

Can we stop this bickering and instead find screenshots and videos to show-off to those old-timers who think 3.6.9 or retail was the best thing since sliced bread?

[Kosh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_bWDo5mlDw


Intro cutscene to War in Heaven.

[Hades]

Show them some of the new high-poly models that have been made, such as the Colossus, Boanerges, Artemis, Medusa, Typhon, Hatshepsut, etc

[CommanderDJ]

Behold...

THE SATHANAS

[Colonol Dekker]

Oy! I upgraded it.

[Nuclear1]

No!  I upgraded it!

stop plagiamarizing my upgradiamarizing

[Colonol Dekker]

I turned it from hidden to public yesterday :/
 
Did we install the 48k ram chip without me knowing?

[TrashMan]

Competition can be a great motivator..you might say it drives the human race.
Cooperation can too. Both mechanism push us forward.

Now personally, I prefer cooperation (which should be clear to anyone, given that I hate the "exclusive asset" thing), but one cannot deny that a healthy does of rivalry can produce quite a drive.

But both of those will fail if they run across their hated enemies - lack of enthusiasm and irritation. These things killed mods before and will kill again.
Look at me, I'm a prefect example. FOW3 ain't going anywhere now. UV mapping chapships is a chore to me, and that and pretty much working alone irritates me...and since no one seems to care either way, my entusiasm isn't really all that pumped up. It's easier and simple to move to another project, to another game, than to finish it.


So the best way to help campaigns/mods is to show interest and encourage the makers (or help them directly)...because it takes a helluva lot of work (time) and dedication to make one, and life seems to suck those out of you.
 


Life is friggin killing me.
So many thing to do, so little time, and spending 24 hours in front of the PC is a death sentance to my health.