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Offline Jeff Vader

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Well, even if one couldn't blow up a planet entirely and the pieces were pulled back together by gravity, the planet would still be a mess and even if it would eventually become inhabitable once more, it would take longer than what dsmart needs to make a bug-free product.

There, happy now? You don't need to vaporize it, just ruin it.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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Well, even if one couldn't blow up a planet entirely and the pieces were pulled back together by gravity, the planet would still be a mess and even if it would eventually become inhabitable once more, it would take longer than what dsmart needs to make a bug-free product.

There, happy now? You don't need to vaporize it, just ruin it.

That was my point.  The Lucifer rendered Vasuda prime uninhabitable with just two SSLBeams. Like .1% of the firepower of the USilv.

 

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The USilver is supposed to destroy a planet by compromising its internal structure.
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Offline Jeff Vader

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But it would still require an awfully strong shockwave, if you wanted to make sure that the fragments of the planet spread tthroughout the galaxy, never to be merged back together again.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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Offline Mobius

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What do you mean with "merged back together again"? It can happen, but it doesn't mean that a new, florid planet would be the result of that process.
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Offline Jeff Vader

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What do you mean with "merged back together again"? It can happen, but it doesn't mean that a new, florid planet would be the result of that process.
What I mean is that I got the idea you wanted to blow a planet up so that the pieces would spread like up to Andromeda or something. Apparently you only wanted to break the planet so that no one could live there. My bad.

I also earlier stated that part about the pieces coming together under gravity and, with the increasing pressure and heat, eventually forming a 'new' planet. But that even if it could some day support life, it would take, um... i dunno, at least hundreds, if not thousands of years.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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What do you mean with "merged back together again"? It can happen, but it doesn't mean that a new, florid planet would be the result of that process.
What I mean is that I got the idea you wanted to blow a planet up so that the pieces would spread like up to Andromeda or something. Apparently you only wanted to break the planet so that no one could live there. My bad.

I also earlier stated that part about the pieces coming together under gravity and, with the increasing pressure and heat, eventually forming a 'new' planet. But that even if it could some day support life, it would take, um... i dunno, at least hundreds, if not thousands of years.

try millions or billions of years

  

Offline Jeff Vader

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Hmm... yes, I think you are right, young grasshopper. It would indeed be in those readings. If it would even happen.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:51 < Achillion> yes
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18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

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Hmm... yes, I think you are right, young grasshopper. It would indeed be in those readings. If it would even happen.

Unless the chunks of planet were all exactly the same size, the new planets center would have moved, and most likely have rendered the planet uninhabitable.

 

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It would be impossible to destroy a planet with a beam cannon unless you vaporised it, gravity would bring the pieces back together.

Incorrect. Put a suitably obscene amount of energy into the beam weapon and the fragments would disperse quickly enough to escape each other's gravity. This amount of energy, however, vastly exceeds anything ever seen in FreeSpace by tens of orders of magnitude. It's completelyy impossible with the known FS tech base, other than with the Sathanas subspace weapon, which seems to really open a big hole in subspace out of which pours some of subspace's energy, requiring relatively little output from the firing ship.

 :wtf:

We know nothing about Shvan susbspace stuff... AFAIK, that thing doesn't even appear to be a "point-and-shoot" weapon


Well, unless the Sathanas juggernauts produced the equivalent of the energy that Capella makes in several billion years, they yielded a great deal more energy than they put in. Furthermore, in Inferno, the subspace thing is a point and shoot weapon.
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He was refering to the subspace weapon...that's canon. :P
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He was refering to the subspace weapon...that's canon. :P


Well, unless the Sathanas juggernauts produced the equivalent of the energy that Capella makes in several billion years, they yielded a great deal more energy than they put in. Furthermore, in Inferno, the subspace thing is a point and shoot weapon.

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What did the Shivans use to blow Capella up? :wtf:
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Subspace technology. Subspace technology. Subspace technology. It's CANON.
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But it's not a direct shot weapon like a beam cannon... IMHO, I don't think it can be used aganist anything else than a sun
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You don't know. We don't know if the first Sathanas(and/or Sathanas 17) was/were capable of subspace attacks, so we can't give for sure that they don't use their subspace weapon.

The fact that many Sathanas powered down leds me to think that they're not the same.
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You don't know.

Neither do you.  ;)


The subspace-weapon-as-a-ship-to-ship-beam was added by Inferno. There is no reason to suspect that an FS2 Sathanas could turn its subspace device against a ship, just because an Inferno Sathanas can.

Inferno is not canon. Plain and simple.
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You don't know. We don't know if the first Sathanas(and/or Sathanas 17) was/were capable of subspace attacks, so we can't give for sure that they don't use their subspace weapon.

The fact that many Sathanas powered down leds me to think that they're not the same.

80 Saths powered those subspace rift thingies for over TWO DAYS... that's really not a good weapon for ship-to-ship combat, even if it could be used like that. Both saths that engaged the GTVA forces never used it - since they can't - nuff said.
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