[cube9]

Whether I run Freespace 2 from the disks or the launcher, it will minimize and I have to wait until after the intro is finished playing until I can bring it back up.  When I try to maximize the game before the intro is finished it just minimizes itself again.  Even if i can hit escape fast enough and get to the pilot select screen, it still minimizes itself for another minute or so.  I have searched the forums and read the stickies but have not found a solution yet, am I the only one having this issue?

[General Battuta]

It's quite possible you are, assuming you don't have FreeSpace Open installed! Does running FreeSpace Open 3.6.12 resolve this issue?

[cube9]

I figured out what was wrong, was running the wrong .exe in my freespace folder.  Not sure why there are two executable freespace open files named practically the same thing that got installed, but oh well.  One is fs2_open_3_6_12r_INF and the other is fs2_open_3_6_12d_INF, is that normal?

[General Battuta]

Yes. The -d build is a debug build used to help us get information required to solve problems. Unfortunately the naming isn't very transparent.

[cube9]

Whelp, it just happened again.  At this point I have no idea what could be wrong.  Tried running it in compatibility mode for xp and ran as admin, i'm on windows 7 if it makes any difference.

[General Battuta]

The D bug might actually save you. Could you run said build until you hit the minimize error, then go to your FreeSpace2/data/ folder, locate the file called fs2_open.log, and post the contents of the file using code tags?

This will (hopefully) let us diagnose your problem. Also, don't use the discs, just run from the launcher.

[cube9]

Here it is, I appreciate you taking the time to try and help me out.

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Passed cmdline options:
  <none>
Building file index...
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\multi-mission-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0x377695e0
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\multi-voice-pack.vp' with a checksum of 0xd50e7442
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\Root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x747372cc
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\smarty_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xddeb3b1e
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\sparky_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x164fe65a
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xa11d56f1
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\stu_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd77da83a
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango1_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x4c25221e
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango2_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x86920b82
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango3_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x705e8d71
Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\warble_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xd85c305d
Searching root 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\multi-mission-pack.vp' ... 110 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\multi-voice-pack.vp' ... 307 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\Root_fs2.vp' ... 157 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\smarty_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\sparky_fs2.vp' ... 3027 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\sparky_hi_fs2.vp' ... 1337 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\stu_fs2.vp' ... 2355 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango1_fs2.vp' ... 32 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango2_fs2.vp' ... 15 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\tango3_fs2.vp' ... 10 files
Searching root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\warble_fs2.vp' ... 52 files
Found 12 roots and 7422 files.
Setting language to English
==========================================================================
DEBUG SPEW: No debug_filter.cfg found, so only general, error, and warning
categories can be shown and no debug_filter.cfg info will be saved.
==========================================================================
Initializing OpenAL...
  Using 'Generic Software' as OpenAL sound device...
  OpenAL Vendor     : Creative Labs Inc.
  OpenAL Renderer   : Software
  OpenAL Version    : 1.1

... OpenAL successfully initialized!
Initializing OpenGL graphics device at 640x480 with 32-bit color...
  Initializing WGL...
  Requested WGL Video values = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
  Actual WGL Video values    = R: 8, G: 8, B: 8, depth: 32, double-buffer: 1
  OpenGL Vendor     : NVIDIA Corporation
  OpenGL Renderer   : GeForce 9650M GT/PCI/SSE2
  OpenGL Version    : 3.0.0

  Using extension "GL_EXT_fog_coord".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_multitexture".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_add".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_compression".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_compression_s3tc".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_filter_anisotropic".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_env_combine".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_compiled_vertex_array".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_draw_range_elements".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_mirrored_repeat".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_non_power_of_two".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_SGIS_generate_mipmap".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_framebuffer_object".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_rectangle".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_bgra".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_texture_cube_map".
  Using extension "GL_EXT_texture_lod_bias".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_point_sprite".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shading_language_100".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_shader_objects".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_vertex_shader".
  Using extension "GL_ARB_fragment_shader".
  Using extension "GL_NV_vertex_program3".
  Found special extension function "wglSwapIntervalEXT".

  Initializing Shaders Manager...
  Loading and compiling main shaders...
    Compiling main shader ->  null-v.sdr (null-v.sdr) / null-f.sdr (null-f.sdr) ...
      Shader file(s) (null-v.sdr / null-f.sdr) not found!
      Shader in_error!  Disabling GLSL!
  Shaders Manager initialized.

  Max texture units: 4 (4)
  Max elements vertices: 1048576
  Max elements indices: 1048576
  Max texture size: 8192x8192
  Can use compressed textures: YES
  Texture compression available: YES
  Using trilinear texture filter.
... OpenGL init is complete!
Size of bitmap info = 760 KB
Size of bitmap extra info = 52 bytes
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GRAPHICS: Initializing default colors...
Loading palette gamepalette1-01
No cached palette file
Wokka!  Error opening file (armor.tbl)!
TABLES: Unable to parse 'armor.tbl'!  Error code = 5.
Freeing all existing models...
Error reading registry key 'RegisteredOwner'
Freeing all existing models...
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
Loading palette gamepalette1-01
Loading model 'fighter01.pof'
CFILE: Created new directory 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\data\cache\'
IBX: Starting a new IBX for 'fighter01.pof'.
Submodel 'fighter01c-hull' is detail level 2 of 'fighter01a-hull'
Submodel 'fighter01b-hull' is detail level 1 of 'fighter01a-hull'
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Submodel 'thruster02c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster02a'
Submodel 'thruster02b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster02a'
Allocating space for at least 5 new ship subsystems ...  a total of 200 is now available (5 in-use).
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Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
Adding default sun.
Resetting dynamic tree node limit from 0 to 0...
Resetting dynamic tree node limit from 0 to 0...
Resetting dynamic tree node limit from 0 to 0...
Resetting dynamic tree node limit from 0 to 0...
Freeing all existing models...
Error reading registry key 'RegisteredOwner'
Freeing all existing models...
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
Loading palette gamepalette1-01
Loading model 'fighter01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'fighter01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xd17abc7a, IBX checksum: 0xdd960762 -- "fighter01.pof"
Submodel 'fighter01c-hull' is detail level 2 of 'fighter01a-hull'
Submodel 'fighter01b-hull' is detail level 1 of 'fighter01a-hull'
Submodel 'fighter01d-hull' is detail level 3 of 'fighter01a-hull'
Submodel 'thruster01c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster02c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster02a'
Submodel 'thruster02b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster02a'
Allocating space for at least 5 new ship subsystems ...  a total of 200 is now available (5 in-use).
Resetting dynamic tree node limit from 0 to 0...
Resetting dynamic tree node limit from 0 to 0...
Freeing all existing models...
Error reading registry key 'RegisteredOwner'
Freeing all existing models...
Current soundtrack set to -1 in event_music_reset_choices
Loading palette gamepalette1-01
Loading model 'fighter01.pof'
IBX: Found a good IBX to read for 'fighter01.pof'.
IBX-DEBUG => POF checksum: 0xd17abc7a, IBX checksum: 0xdd960762 -- "fighter01.pof"
Submodel 'fighter01c-hull' is detail level 2 of 'fighter01a-hull'
Submodel 'fighter01b-hull' is detail level 1 of 'fighter01a-hull'
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Submodel 'thruster01b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster01a'
Submodel 'thruster02c' is detail level 2 of 'thruster02a'
Submodel 'thruster02b' is detail level 1 of 'thruster02a'
Allocating space for at least 5 new ship subsystems ...  a total of 200 is now available (5 in-use).
Freeing all existing models...


[General Battuta]

What happens if you check the 'run in a fullscreen window' option in the launcher?

[cube9]

Sorry, do not see where that option is.  Looking for it right now in the video and feature tabs.  EDIT:  Found that option but then it just shows my toolbar at the bottom and wont let me click for a while lol.  Found a temporary fix in that if I put have firefox on then run the game then I do not get the problem.  Going to experiment some more.

[General Battuta]

Sorry, do not see where that option is.  Looking for it right now in the video and feature tabs.

It's under 'dev'.

[cube9]

Oh well, gonna call it a night for now.  If i figure out a better solution than just running it over firefox i'll post it on here.  Thanks for taking the time to help me out.

[General Battuta]

Wait! Did you find the 'run in fullscreen window' option under 'dev'?

You are using Launcher 5.5G, right?

[cube9]

Yeah I found the option, I edited my post earlier, probably should have just made a new one lol.  I am actually using 5.5f... crap.  That MIGHT have something to do with it...

[cube9]

Got 5.5g and it still does the same thing.  Totally out of ideas now, I have not been this baffled with a computer in years.

[General Battuta]

Try turning up the video resolution to something higher than your desktop resolution.

[cube9]

Try turning up the video resolution to something higher than your desktop resolution.

Turned down my desktop resolution and did as you said, turned out it worked!  Thanks for helping me through all of this, now I can finally get angry at the actual difficulty of the game.

[Jeff Vader]

Turned down my desktop resolution ... turned out it worked!

"Up" would have been a better direction. But, whatever rocks your boat.

[Zacam]

Yours:

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Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\Root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0x747372cc

Mine:

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Found root pack 'C:\Games\FreeSpace2\root_fs2.vp' with a checksum of 0xce10d76c

If you installed yours from disc, did you also install the 1.20 Patch for FreeSpace2? If so, you may want to try again. Even though the file counts still match, the checksums should also match and if they don't, that may be what is causing the problem some how. And even if it's not causing the problem, it is still something to correct.