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Offline Kaoru

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
Then you don't know what any of that means. And, most likely, won't until very late in the campaign, since I left most of the ships unnamed. You're correct, however, and I apologize - I've appended spoilertags to the text in question. Incidentally, I got that mission working. I restored the red-alert status and left it as a scramble, while adding the 'skip stage' checkbox in the briefing-bar. I might've done one or two other things, but it worked, regardless. As for my impression of the campaign, now that I've finished it...
My head hurts. Awesomely. Great job, Blaise! Thumbs-up on what has got to be one of the best campaigns I've ever played, for FS2 or any other game!

Do you mean the "Cut to next stage" box under the Briefing Editor?  I don't see a "skip stage" checkbox.

Didn't help, whichever it was.  I tried modifying "Tactical Withdrawl" as stated - yes on both Red Alert and Scramble.  I now get that "Incoming Transmission" screen you usually get when it's a Red Alert mission, but the game crashes when I click Commit.
Indeed, the 'cut to the next stage' box was the one I meant - but I think you're confused.
For 'Tactical Withdrawl', fully disable the 'Red Alert' status. Leave only the Scramble status. The mission that should be both Red Alert and Scramble is '...is paved with good intentions', the second-to-last mission. I'm going to go back and test this, and then I'll try attaching the working mission-files, if they launch for me, again. Maybe I just got lucky and fiddled around enough, who knows.
~Kaoru

EDIT: They do, indeed, work in both the campaign and the mission-editor. So, here they are. All it took to get them working was a bit of fooling around in FRED - I'm pretty sure everything mission-related is totally intact, all I did was toggle a few extra options. If, for some reason, these also don't work for you, I'd suggest you go back to FRED an extra trigger into the previous mission - one of those that ended up getting used so frequently in 'Transcend': The 'go-straight-from-one-mission-to-the-next' one. I really have no idea how to do that, though I suppose I could look into it, since it's just as simple as popping open the Transcend .vp and seeing how it was done. Hopefully, these will work, though. Stick them in C:\Program Files\Freespace 2\homesick\data\missions - or whatever your appropriate FS2/Homesick directory is.

EDIT 2: The thing for the mission to just 'go' without a briefing is the 'No-briefing' checkbox in mission specs. Can't believe I didn't notice that, before. You actually have to do it on the mission itself, not on the previous one. My bad.

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Offline Objekt

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
Thanks, looks like it's fixed now!  :D

 

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
Small bump here. For anyone who wants it, I've made an .ini for Homesick, plus a new logo made by yours truly.

You can get it here.

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
MediaFire or RapidShare?  At least for mirrors?

 

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
They're temporary though. :P
To consider the Earth as the only populated world in infinite space is as absurd as to assert that in an entire field of millet, only one grain will grow. - Metrodorus of Chios
I wept. Mysterious forces beyond my ken had reached into my beautiful mission and energized its pilots with inhuman bomb-firing abilities. I could only imagine the GTVA warriors giving a mighty KIAAIIIIIII shout as they worked their triggers, their biceps bulging with sinew after years of Ivan Drago-esque steroid therapy and weight training. - General Battuta

 
Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
#20 was also a red alert mission and I 'fixed' it the same way like all the others. If there's still something wrong with it, I must admit that I no longer have any idea what might be causing it.
I figured it out! I still have no more idea than you what's causing the problem, but I figured out a solution. Go ahead and FRED out the Red Alert status, but FRED in scramble-mission status. For some odd reason, this allows the briefing the load normally. I mean, you still don't get to pick your ship or your ordnance, but, hey, if you get really desperate, you can change that in the missionfile itself.
~Kaoru

I have the same problem with mission 20... however, when I open FRED2 (opensource version) I can't figure out how to open the mission in FRED because I can't find it's file... I have already figured out how to change it from a red alert to a scramble mission. So can anyone help me figure out where the mission files are hidden? Vista's search function can't find them... I'm using a (for as far as I know) standard 3.6.9 installation with only Homesick added to it. Thanks in advance :)

 

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
:welcomesilver:

Try in data/missions... I didn't manage to find the campaign in my own folder(I would have already changed and posted the mission you're looking for otherwise).

There are too many issues with Homesick on SCP, the campaign has to be betterized. *cough* FSCRP *cough*
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
I have the same problem with mission 20... however, when I open FRED2 (opensource version) I can't figure out how to open the mission in FRED because I can't find it's file... I have already figured out how to change it from a red alert to a scramble mission. So can anyone help me figure out where the mission files are hidden? Vista's search function can't find them... I'm using a (for as far as I know) standard 3.6.9 installation with only Homesick added to it. Thanks in advance :)
The mission files are indeed in the \data\missions folder within the homesick vp. But personally, I never modify mission files with FRED. Notepad FTW. I'm not at home right now, but when I get home later tonight, I can check whether I have those fixed missions somewhere. And if not, I'll just redo them.

Edit: I found this. I think it has fixed versions of most, if not all, the troublesome missions.
« Last Edit: March 22, 2008, 11:54:10 am by Lobo »
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

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15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 
Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
Thanks for your replies, but it still doesn't work :( I've tried the fix file, but it still crashes... I've tried editing both the original homesick and the homesick fix file (figured out to open and edit them in notepad, I still can't find any files in FRED and when I try to open the .vp itself in FRED I get an error) but after I do that FS2 refuses to launch until I put the original files back :sigh: :confused: I'll just give up on this one for now and hope that it gets fixed, I don't really feel like trying other builds than 3.6.9 like I've seen suggested somewhere, more trouble than it's worth IMO :)

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
Thanks for your replies, but it still doesn't work :( I've tried the fix file, but it still crashes... I've tried editing both the original homesick and the homesick fix file (figured out to open and edit them in notepad, I still can't find any files in FRED and when I try to open the .vp itself in FRED I get an error) but after I do that FS2 refuses to launch until I put the original files back :sigh: :confused: I'll just give up on this one for now and hope that it gets fixed, I don't really feel like trying other builds than 3.6.9 like I've seen suggested somewhere, more trouble than it's worth IMO :)
An interesting side note: never edit original vp files. Undoing changes is most difficult that way. A better way is to extract the desired file (like a mission file in this case), edit it, then place it to an appropriate folder (like \freespace\homesick\data\missions in this case).

Also, trying other builds isn't actually that difficult. Just download the build to your \freespace\ folder and use the Launcher to select that build. That's it.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline DeeGee

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
So I finished this campaign yesterday, and really enjoyed it.

As many of the posts in this thread mention, there are some issues playing it all the way through on FSOpen (3.6.9), however with a few minor mods it is possible, here's a quick list of things to change (note very little of this is my own work, just a collection of other peoples ideas further up the thread into one place):

Firstly use a program like Notepad++ (google for it) that will not corrupt the binary file, standard notepad/wordpad will not do. All edits need to be performed on the \homesick\Homesick.vp file

Search and replace all of the following:

Red Alert: 1 with Red Alert: 0
Scramble: 1 with Scramble: 0

Then for the following missions: Tactical Withdrawl, Ram Raid and "...is paved with good intentions"

replace:

$start_briefing
$num_stages: X (where X is some number)

with

$start_briefing
$num_stages: 0

This prevents the game from crashing during the briefing, it means if you want the briefing text you'll have to either read the .vp file or just guess from the mission goals.

Thanks to Blaise for an amazing campaign, I look forward to a follow up one day.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
Your efforts to search and compile all the necessary fixes for Homesick on 3.6.9 shall be commended. There's just one thing. Tampering vp files directly is not advisable. A better option would be to first extract the mission files from the vp with a vp viewer/editor, such as Maja. Then, you can fiddle the mission files (this time plain Notepad also works) and then, depending on one's preferences, the mission files can be placed to either \homesick\data\missions or in a new vp, to \data\missions. If you create a vp from the mission files, you can name it so that it is before the homesick vp, when compared in alphabetical order. That will make the game engine read it first, and ignore files with the same name in the homesick vp.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 

Offline Mawhrin

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
Firstly use a program like Notepad++
:welcome:
Aside from Lobo's good advice above, I've found the free version of ExpertComSoft's HexEdit to be excellent, including for editing large files.
http://www.expertcomsoft.com/download.htm

 

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
Hmm, Hexplorer any good?

 
Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
Okay, this is a new one.  The briefing for the mission after the one where you
Spoiler:
run the GTVI installation to get to the unknown jump node and jump out
causes the game to crash.   I've never known a normal briefing to do that.   :wtf:
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Offline Mawhrin

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
Okay, this is a new one.  The briefing for the mission after the one where you
Spoiler:
run the GTVI installation to get to the unknown jump node and jump out
causes the game to crash.   I've never known a normal briefing to do that.   :wtf:
I had that problem. I modified the .fs2 files somehow - I think I deleted the flags. I don't have those files any more though.

 

Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
Okay, this is a new one.  The briefing for the mission after the one where you
Spoiler:
run the GTVI installation to get to the unknown jump node and jump out
causes the game to crash.   I've never known a normal briefing to do that.   :wtf:
Either it's yet another one of those red-alert bugs, or one of the other kind. Most crashing missions in Homesick can be fixed by either removing the red-alert flag or removing the red-alert flag and adding the scramble flag.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 
Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
It isn't a red-alert mission as far as I can tell; I get a normal debriefing from the previous mission, and I see about a second of a normal briefing right before it crashes. 
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Offline Jeff Vader

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Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
So onwards to option #2: Add the scramble flag and see if that helps.
23:40 < achillion > EveningTea: ass
23:40 < achillion > wait no
23:40 < achillion > evilbagel: ass
23:40 < EveningTea > ?
23:40 < achillion > 2-letter tab complete failure

14:08 < achillion > there's too much talk of butts and dongs in here
14:08 < achillion > the level of discourse has really plummeted
14:08 < achillion > Let's talk about politics instead
14:08 <@The_E > butts and dongs are part of #hard-light's brand now
14:08 <@The_E > well
14:08 <@The_E > EvilBagel's brand, at least

01:06 < T-Rog > welp
01:07 < T-Rog > I've got to take some very strong antibiotics
01:07 < achillion > penis infection?
01:08 < T-Rog > Chlamydia
01:08 < achillion > O.o
01:09 < achillion > well
01:09 < achillion > I guess that happens
01:09 < T-Rog > at least it's curable
01:09 < achillion > yeah
01:10 < T-Rog > I take it you weren't actually expecting it to be a penis infection
01:10 < achillion > I was not

14:04 < achillion > Sometimes the way to simplify is to just have a habit and not think about it too much
14:05 < achillion > until stuff explodes
14:05 < achillion > then you start thinking about it

22:16 < T-Rog > I don't know how my gf would feel about Jewish conspiracy porn

15:41 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
15:47 < EvilBagel> butt
15:51 < Achillion> yes
15:53 <-INFO > EveningTea [[email protected]] has quit [Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client]

18:53 < Achillion> Dicks are fun

21:41 < MatthTheGeek> you can't spell assassin without two asses

20:05 < sigtau> i'm mining titcoins from now on

00:31 < oldlaptop> Drunken antisocial educated freezing hicks with good Internet == Finland stereotype

11:46 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has joined #hard-light
11:50 < achtung> Surely you've heard of DVDA
11:50 < achtung> Double Vaginal Double ANal
11:51 < Kobrar> ...
11:51 <-INFO > Kobrar [[email protected]] has left #hard-light []

 
Re: RELEASE: Homesick, a 30+ mission campaign
Adding the scramble flag does not help at all.  I'm reviewing the briefing text to make sure there isn't a coding error of some sort in it or something. 

Oddly enough, the briefing continues to be read even after the game crashes; it doesn't stop until after I've told Windows to send (or not send as the case may be) the error report. 

Edit:  I believe I've found the problem.  There are no end quotes on the briefing text.  Fixing that now; here's hoping it works. 

Edit2:  What the hell?  Putting an end quote and end parentheses at the end of the briefing stage makes it so Freespace doesn't even recognize the campaign as there!  Breaking it again restores the campaign to the campaign menu, but results in a failed briefing.  I don't know what I did wrong; I copied the exact way every other briefing line is set up. 
« Last Edit: April 29, 2008, 02:03:47 pm by Renegade Paladin »
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